Will I be able to export the pandas code?
Yes, you can first transform the dataframe via the GUI and afterwards you can export the resulting pandas code. So you can reproduce all the results
"... if and when we actually write it."
Bamboolib – A GUI for Pandas
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#32Another project that could be used for inspiration here and worth checking is http://openrefine.org/
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#33> As you might know, we will start developing bamboolib as soon as we have 10.000 subscribers! No, I didn't know. Not a fucking mention of it. Would have been nice to have that on the page somewhere.
I am sorry if the confusion upset you. We haven't submitted this post and communicated via other channels (e.g. linkedin) where we mentioned our goal of 10k subscribers. Via which channel did you join the mailing list?
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#34> As you might know, we will start developing bamboolib as soon as we have 10.000 subscribers! No, I didn't know. Not a fucking mention of it. Would have been nice to have that on the page somewhere.
I was going to post and ask about an estimated release date, little did I know it would be an artificially imposed one. I was sign up number 900 something. What happens if you guys never hit 10k signups? Is it just never going to be released? The github repo has 200 stars but it’s just a few stub files... this looks like a marketing campaign for a fantasy product and now I’m wishing that I’d used a throw away email.…
We are afraid that our effort on bamboolib will be wasted if there is no real interest in bamboolib, which is why we set ourselves the ambitious goal of 10k subscribers. We only want to build software that people REALLY want. Also, we developed edaviz.com and thus have opportunity costs.
The 10k subscribers is a soft goal, so we may still develop bamboolib if we are somewhat close to it, but the 10k give us a clear threshold. Also, if we decide not to do it, we will delete all mails. So you don't need to be afraid that your mail gets abused.
Also please note that our landing page is just online for a couple of hours and we have already hundreds of signups, so in my estimation, getting at least close to 10k is very feasible. This depends of course on whether people who really need bamboolib share it with others who also really need it. And we are glad that we already found some people who would save between 20-40h per month. However, the big question is: are we able to find more people like those and are they able to find us. So, this is the challenge :) However, the challenge is big and therefore, we need support from others who are willing to share bamboolib if they really need it
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#35Thank you for sharing bamboolib, StreamBright! I am Florian, the co-creator of bamboolib and I am happy to answer any questions :)
Does this work or is this just marketing for something that doesn't exist?
In the youtube video, it is mentioned that this is a product vision based on Trifacta Wrangler in order to show what bamboolib is aiming for.
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#36So Trifacta on top of Pandas. OK.
Yep. Some similarity to TFDV too, but the UI here looks to be more or less lifted directly from Trifacta/Cloud Dataprep. pro: - Trifacta can be slow, and part of that might be the way it stores the data (I'm assuming js data structures); if so Pandas/Bamboolib could improve that. con: - Trifacta/Cloud Dataprep is directly integrated with Cloud Dataflow and can handle jobs that would crash Pandas.
Thank you for pointing out TFDV (Tensorflow Data Validation) - I had not seen it so far.
And yes, as I say in the video, we used the Trifacta Wrangler Free Version to illustrate the vision of what we aspire to build. In the end, it will look different of course and we have some ideas on where we would imagine a completely different user interface. If this will be better or worse remains to be seen..
And thank you for the comparison of Trifacta and pandas. And I agree, that pandas won't be able to handle any dataset size. However, I wonder if the data set size can be increased if we also work in the cloud on machines with a larger RAM. Or, maybe even export Dask code instead of pandas code.
So, you seem to have experience working with Trifacta Wrangler. Is there something that you don't love about their solution?
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was going to post and ask about an estimated release date, little did I know it would be an artificially imposed one. I was sign up number 900 something. What happens if you guys never hit 10k signups? Is it just never going to be released? The github repo has 200 stars but it’s just a few stub files... this looks like a marketing campaign for a fantasy product and now I’m wishing that I’d used a throw away email.…
We are afraid that our effort on bamboolib will be wasted if there is no real interest in bamboolib, which is why we set ourselves the ambitious goal of 10k subscribers. We only want to build software that people REALLY want. Also, we developed edaviz.com and thus have opportunity costs. The 10k subscribers is a soft goal, so we may still develop bamboolib if we are somewhat close to it, but the 10k give us a clear t…
> We are afraid that our effort on bamboolib will be wasted if there is no real interest in bamboolib, which is why we set ourselves the ambitious goal of 10k subscribers. We only want to build software that people REALLY want.
How do you know if they really want it if all you have to show are mock ups and no real functionality. Or even worse, using videos of OTHER SOFTWARE without mentioning that it's lifted from that and not from a WIP or anything like that.
This pisses me off way more than it should. The onus is ON YOU to do market research, not for the market to do research for you. You should know if this is in demand already or not. What's the point besides mining e-mail addresses?
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does this work or is this just marketing for something that doesn't exist?
In the youtube video, it is mentioned that this is a product vision based on Trifacta Wrangler in order to show what bamboolib is aiming for.
Is 'product vision' your words to rationalize marketing something that is completely made up and hasn't been started yet? Maybe you should save your lying HN submissions and market something when it exists.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Great, what is their background? And why exactly do they like it?
Mostly academia. Because of the ease of use, I think. If you would like to I could pass a questionnaire to them, asking what feature would they see the most.
That would be great! If you need any help or support, please let us know :)
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#40I wonder if you've come across Monarch? https://www.datawatch.com/in-action/monarch-desktop/ It's a well-known commercial package that's been around for ages and when I saw it they seem to have some good ideas around UI for data prep (e.g. like seeing your dataframe at every stage, reordering operations and flipping back and forth) that could further inspire your GUI.
Thank you for pointing this out. So far, we did not know about Monarch