It's not only a matter of speed..the prices are really high compared to neighborhood.
For instance, you pay 10€ / month in Italy and you get 50 GB of LTE data. In Germany you pay 10€ and you get at most 3GB
Germans Grow Frustrated with Their Slow-Poke Internet
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#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
How ever did people get by for thousands of years before cell phones existed?
The didn't. If you fell down into a crevice, you died. You could apply the same spurious argument to anything - how did people ever get by for thousands of years before antibiotics/vaccines/electricity/water purification existed? They didn't, they lived their nasty, brutish and short lives, and died.
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#253I live in Central Berlin and the issue is present here as well. I had to choose the Telekom, one of the most expensive providers, because they intentionally blocked requests from other providers to service me with internet in my apartment.
How did they do that? No port free? Do you know about https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/_tools/VSTK/Form01Beschwerd... ?
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#254Which germans? All of them? The rural "Landeier"? The suburbians? The failed capital Berlin? In my personal experience they are mostly too lazy or anxious to switch because of FUD, and/or stingy. The situation is complicated because in most places the so called last mile is in the hands of the former state monopolist, which now is playing a joint-stock company, while the state holds about one third of shares directly…
Needs more newlines.
Why? how does it look? I'm typing this in Firefox on desktop.
Are you on something mobile and need to scroll sideways?
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#255Brit living in Germany here. I just bought a new home, and it came with Fiber to the Home. Great I thought! Then I tried to get connected...
I have zero choice of ISP: I had to first go to a small company who maintain my line, who then pointed me at another company for the contract.
Though rated at 1gbit, I can only get max 500mbit from my ISP, and then that costs a whooping 90 EUR a month, without any phone or TV service.
In the end I took 300mbit at just under 70 EUR a month. Happy enough here, Netflix is great in HDR, but the costs and choice are ridiculous even when you have full fiber in Germany...
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#256Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's far cheaper than the US. I get 6MB/s downloads for 15€/month. For mobile, there's a chart making the rounds on Twitter, and it seems to me Germany is very much in line with other countries. Of course it's more expensive than it is in poorer countries in eastern Europe, as everything is.
For a while in Germany I was paying 30€/month for 10Mbps. Meanwhile other EU countries gave you 1Gbps for ~10€/month. Germany is definitely at the lower end of internet infrastructure.
> Meanwhile other EU countries gave you 1Gbps for ~10€/month. Germany is definitely at the lower end of internet infrastructure.
This sounds like eastern europe pricing, western tends to be quite a bit higher. We're talking 20+ for DSL or "slow" fiber (100M or so), GB you won't get below 30+ or even 40~50 depending on the country.
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#257I recently did vacation at the North Sea (land side, not the islands). It was heartbreaking. In many areas the iPhone showed "No Service", in most areas we had "Edge" connection with virtually no data throughput. Even when it showed "3G" I was mostly unable to use WhatsApp. And this is a region where people live! And let's not talk about the landline broadband.... our rented appartment had a meager 1MBit download spe…
The crazy thing I think is how expensive internet is, in whatever form, in Germany compared to the rest of Europe while simultaneously being so terrible.
Slow? Yes. Expensive? No.
I recently moved to Germany and now have 100mbit DSL for 25€/month (~$30) plus a phone contract with 6GB/month (more than enough since I have Wifi at home and work) including a phone flat for <€20/month. That's on par with the UK and cheaper than US and Canada.
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#258I'm from Germany and it's very frustrating. I'm already using the provider with the best network here (Deutsche Telekom). Having a fast connection outside of cities is still the exception.
It's so bad that I can't even call many times during my daily commute.
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#259I recently did vacation at the North Sea (land side, not the islands). It was heartbreaking. In many areas the iPhone showed "No Service", in most areas we had "Edge" connection with virtually no data throughput. Even when it showed "3G" I was mostly unable to use WhatsApp. And this is a region where people live! And let's not talk about the landline broadband.... our rented appartment had a meager 1MBit download spe…
Ha! It's enough to be 30 km away from Munich, and somewhere between the villages you might have no internet or edge only. It's disappointing.
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#260I'm centrally located in Berlin, and have an unmetered 400/12mpbs cable connection for 40Eur/m. I can't say that I'm impressed, but having just lived in Canada which is _far_ worse I'm happy about it not being quite as bad. However, 10 years ago in Sweden I had an unmetered 1000/1000mbps fiber connection for 4Eur/m. I feel like I'm doomed to forever have a shittier connection.
located in Berlin, I have only fiber and the only ISP is Deutsche Telekom, offering a 50Mbps connection for 40€/month.
The 500Mbps is at 99€/month