Picking the FB50 smart lock

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Post by icy » Mon, Aug 05, 2019, 7:26 PM UTC

Re: Picking the FB50 smart lock

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Post by floatingatoll » Mon, Aug 05, 2019, 7:41 PM UTC

Note that requiring a server account login before the user is allowed to manage a Bluetooth device is an explicit violation of the App Store Review Guidelines, so now that awareness is being drawn to this lock they may find themselves banned on iOS soon unless they fix it.

Re: Picking the FB50 smart lock

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Post by balls187 » Mon, Aug 05, 2019, 7:44 PM UTC

Losing access to a lock is bad stuff. I went with a smart lock that has a physical key.

The article says don't buy a smart-lock, but the convenience of having one-time access codes, scheduled access, delivery access, and linked to a security camera make the downsides (increased attack vectors) something I'm willing to live with.

Re: Picking the FB50 smart lock

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Post by bluesign » Mon, Aug 05, 2019, 7:58 PM UTC

floatingatoll wrote: post #2

Note that requiring a server account login before the user is allowed to manage a Bluetooth device is an explicit violation of the App Store Review Guidelines, so now that awareness is being drawn to this lock they may find themselves banned on iOS soon unless they fix it.

I dont think Apple is that hard on this. I peeked a bit the guidelines, couldn't find the section you mentioned.

Re: Picking the FB50 smart lock

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Post by one2zero » Mon, Aug 05, 2019, 8:00 PM UTC

If someone picks a "dumb lock" and steals all of your belongings, does the manufacturer have any liability? What if someone picks your "smart lock"?

Re: Picking the FB50 smart lock

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Post by berbec » Mon, Aug 05, 2019, 8:01 PM UTC

balls187 wrote: post #3

Losing access to a lock is bad stuff. I went with a smart lock that has a physical key. The article says don't buy a smart-lock, but the convenience of having one-time access codes, scheduled access, delivery access, and linked to a security camera make the downsides (increased attack vectors) something I'm willing to live with.

And we, on HN, can make an informed decision about that calculated risk. The general public just sees "Encrypted Android App with Smart Unlock" and thinks they are safe.

Re: Picking the FB50 smart lock

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Post by balls187 » Mon, Aug 05, 2019, 8:03 PM UTC

one2zero wrote: post #5

If someone picks a "dumb lock" and steals all of your belongings, does the manufacturer have any liability? What if someone picks your "smart lock"?

Home owners insurance typically covers theft of personal belongings.

Re: Picking the FB50 smart lock

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Post by balls187 » Mon, Aug 05, 2019, 8:05 PM UTC

berbec wrote: post #6

balls187 wrote: post #3

Losing access to a lock is bad stuff. I went with a smart lock that has a physical key. The article says don't buy a smart-lock, but the convenience of having one-time access codes, scheduled access, delivery access, and linked to a security camera make the downsides (increased attack vectors) something I'm willing to live with.

And we, on HN, can make an informed decision about that calculated risk. The general public just sees "Encrypted Android App with Smart Unlock" and thinks they are safe.

Is that any different than virtually any other cyber security issue--the general public is not well equipped to do Risk Mitigation compared to more savvy individuals?

Re: Picking the FB50 smart lock

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Post by thedanbob » Mon, Aug 05, 2019, 8:10 PM UTC

I’ve been getting into home automation recently and I’ve given myself a rule: nothing cloud connected. If I can’t run it off my local server, I don’t want it. I have much more motivation to secure my home than any company ever will.

Re: Picking the FB50 smart lock

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Post by germinalphrase » Mon, Aug 05, 2019, 8:15 PM UTC

thedanbob wrote: post #9

I’ve been getting into home automation recently and I’ve given myself a rule: nothing cloud connected. If I can’t run it off my local server, I don’t want it. I have much more motivation to secure my home than any company ever will.

Have you found a smart lock that meets your test?