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Germans Grow Frustrated with Their Slow-Poke Internet

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I honestly would expect that at a national park. To me that would be what a national park ... just is.

But this is the place where you might get lost and without cell service, you are really lost. This is quite annoying in the US, that national parks or deserts have no cell service. The places that need it most (life and death situations) - this is basically a health service there. In comparison to Europe the mobile density is quite sparse there.

Wait, how could you possibly get really lost in Yellowstone? If you are leaving your car and heading off into the back country then presumably you have the skills to do so. If you are staying on the normal roads then you will have no problem finding a ranger, a ranger station, an information booth, etc. I've probably been to Yellowstone 10 times and I can't fathom anyone getting really lost.

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I recently did vacation at the North Sea (land side, not the islands). It was heartbreaking. In many areas the iPhone showed "No Service", in most areas we had "Edge" connection with virtually no data throughput. Even when it showed "3G" I was mostly unable to use WhatsApp. And this is a region where people live! And let's not talk about the landline broadband.... our rented appartment had a meager 1MBit download spe…

I had the same in the black Forrest, at the top of hills it was OK but mostly it was indeed Edge. Here in Austria I have LTE everywhere.

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Wait, average internet speed in the US is 120 Mbits? About a gigabyte in 1 minute?

The source of the “data” is Speedtest.net tests, which is absolutely not an actual survey. At best, it represents the average speed of “enthusiasts who like to test their internet speed”. Who, not surprisingly, are going to have faster connections than the actual nationwide average. Shame on WSJ, this is a blatant example of using poor data to support an already-written article.

ISPs boost traffic caps to speed test sites so they are completely useless for any real assessment.

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I recently moved to Germany. I used to work as a software dev in India before this. I was horrified to learn that (urban) India has way better internet than Germany. When it comes to mobile data it's even more depressing - back in India I used to get 1.5GB _daily_ 4G mobile data for 200 rupees (around 2.5 euros) a _month_. Even after adjusting for purchasing power, 2.5 euros a month for virtually unlimited mobile dat…

For what it's worth, on O2 there are a ton of better deals than that. Just checked winsim.de for example, 3GB for 8€, 6GB for 13€ a month with no minimum runtime. If you're a power user, Freenet Funk offers unlimited data at 1€/day used (so around 30€/month tops). Don't get me wrong, the situation here is still embarrassing, I just wanted to provide some pointers.

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110 CAD (~83 USD) for 7Mbps Down 0.5Mbps Up in Atlantic Canada.

That’s insane compared to elsewhere in Canada. $95 CAD for 150 Mbps up & down, unlimited data, here. For $120 I could bump that up to 750 up & down.

Please name your provider, location and url to your plan. I find your claim very hard to believe.

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I recently did vacation at the North Sea (land side, not the islands). It was heartbreaking. In many areas the iPhone showed "No Service", in most areas we had "Edge" connection with virtually no data throughput. Even when it showed "3G" I was mostly unable to use WhatsApp. And this is a region where people live! And let's not talk about the landline broadband.... our rented appartment had a meager 1MBit download spe…

The crazy thing I think is how expensive internet is, in whatever form, in Germany compared to the rest of Europe while simultaneously being so terrible.

I'll get hate for this, but whenever things like cell service are suddenly shared with millions of people more, the connectivity is stressed out. Companies like AT&T spend at least 1.5 years from the planning of a tower to it's completion, so reliable growth models are required.

Sudden population influxes produce problems.

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The crazy thing I think is how expensive internet is, in whatever form, in Germany compared to the rest of Europe while simultaneously being so terrible.

It's far cheaper than the US. I get 6MB/s downloads for 15€/month. For mobile, there's a chart making the rounds on Twitter, and it seems to me Germany is very much in line with other countries. Of course it's more expensive than it is in poorer countries in eastern Europe, as everything is.

Is the 6MB/s or 6Mbps? Is that the average or minimum guaranteed?

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France has 30 millions less people and is 50% bigger than germany (550000km2 vs 350000km2), so no, it is not comparable. Germany is way denser than France, with a lot big cities.

Isn't Internet in France supposedly really cheap and very fast?

Yes and no. Broadband is really hit or miss. You can live on a street where half the buildings have access to fiber (and therefore triple-play gigabit for Mobile isn't terribly better than in Germany (there are still many areas with fairly poor coverage) but it's way cheaper, yes. For instance I use a French SIM card for traveling, since it covers the entire EU, EFTA countries and North America. Unlimited calls/SMS and 15GB for 15€/month.
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