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Re: Wisconsin Officials Urge People to Stop Vaping After Sudden Rise in Lung Disease

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Post by asdff » Mon, Aug 05, 2019, 7:08 AM UTC

JamesBarney wrote: post #70

exogeny wrote: post #15

I sort of hate these articles, because the comments always boil down to three main categories: 1. I vape and this hasn’t happened to me, therefore I’m an expert on public health policy 2. I vape and because it’s better than cigarettes, it’s safe on those terms alone 3. What the hell is wrong with you idiots, safer than cigarettes is not the same as safe You’re either irrationally defensive (1, 2) because you feel att…

There are three pretty clear facts 1. There is has been a sharp drop in the number of smokers 2. There is has been an even sharper jump in the number of the vapers, especially concerning among youth. 3. The available evidence says that the inherent risks of vaping are an order of magnitude less than smoking. As a society we're discussing whats the optimal public health policy to reduce vaping and smoking. Unfortunate…

Among my peers at least people vape for the stimulant effects. Helps with work, and helps at the bar. Its also easier to manage than coffee which stains teeth, taints breath, and makes you poop.

Re: Wisconsin Officials Urge People to Stop Vaping After Sudden Rise in Lung Disease

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Re: Wisconsin Officials Urge People to Stop Vaping After Sudden Rise in Lung Disease

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Post by brokenmachine » Tue, Aug 06, 2019, 3:49 AM UTC

scruple wrote: post #79

buttcoinslol wrote: post #2

They likely got a bad batch of THC cartridges, there's a ton of black market ones going around all over, with who knows what in them. Millions of people use nicotine vaporizers daily with no ill effects.

There's an Instagram user who independently tests, meaning he pays to have an independent lab test the samples, (THC) carts for pesticides and solvents and posts the results for all to see. He's a hero, as far as I'm concerned. There's so much shit in these cartridges. They are concentrated, so pesticides used during growth can also be concentrated in the cartridges. It's completely absurd to me that this stuff isn't…

100% agree but every time anyone comments that vaping should be regulated, the wolves come out shouting at the top of their lungs how safe vaping is, and how much better vaping is than smoking, and saying that you're basically forcing people to keep smoking by doing anything to regulate vaping.

Re: Wisconsin Officials Urge People to Stop Vaping After Sudden Rise in Lung Disease

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Post by brokenmachine » Tue, Aug 06, 2019, 4:08 AM UTC

buttcoinslol wrote: post #30

noja wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do the ingredients on your packet say?

Vegetable Glycerin, Propylene Glycol, Natural and Artificial Flavorings, Nicotine

Natural lung disease flavor.

Seriously, could they be any more vague than "Natural and Artificial flavorings?"

Re: Wisconsin Officials Urge People to Stop Vaping After Sudden Rise in Lung Disease

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Post by kd5bjo » Tue, Aug 06, 2019, 7:48 PM UTC

dahfizz wrote: post #98

9wzYQbTYsAIc wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So is drinking alcohol, but you don’t see stop drinking commercials on TV.

Have you ever heard the phrase "please drink responsibily"? Besides, it's a different issue. It is general knowledge that alcohol has some serious health consequences.

That language replaced “Don’t drink and drive” in alcohol advertisements because the manufacturers wanted the lede to be “Please drink...” instead of “Don’t drink...”. It’s there either because there’s legislation requiring anti-drunk-driving statements in the ads or to head off legislators adding such a requirement.