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Wisconsin Officials Urge People to Stop Vaping After Sudden Rise in Lung Disease

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Re: Wisconsin Officials Urge People to Stop Vaping After Sudden Rise in Lung Disease

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They likely got a bad batch of THC cartridges, there's a ton of black market ones going around all over, with who knows what in them. Millions of people use nicotine vaporizers daily with no ill effects.

Yeah, a local cluster of ~8-20 cases and the patients say they were using 'THC' cartridges in a state where it's illegal?

People were putting synthetic cannabinoids in e-juice over a decade ago, and I'd be surprised if there wasn't still a market for it. I'd also be surprised if the actual chemicals being used haven't evolved to keep up with regulations - at this point they'd probably be dozens of analogues away from what was presented in the original Huffman papers, huh?

I think it's probably a very bad idea to knowingly use that sort of thing, but I guess the underground market might not have very well-regulated labeling standards.

Re: Wisconsin Officials Urge People to Stop Vaping After Sudden Rise in Lung Disease

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They likely got a bad batch of THC cartridges, there's a ton of black market ones going around all over, with who knows what in them. Millions of people use nicotine vaporizers daily with no ill effects.

Yeah, a local cluster of ~8-20 cases and the patients say they were using 'THC' cartridges in a state where it's illegal? People were putting synthetic cannabinoids in e-juice over a decade ago, and I'd be surprised if there wasn't still a market for it. I'd also be surprised if the actual chemicals being used haven't evolved to keep up with regulations - at this point they'd probably be dozens of analogues away from…

Yeah the clustering makes me think they got a tainted cartridge as opposed to it being an inherent risk of vaping.

Re: Wisconsin Officials Urge People to Stop Vaping After Sudden Rise in Lung Disease

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They likely got a bad batch of THC cartridges, there's a ton of black market ones going around all over, with who knows what in them. Millions of people use nicotine vaporizers daily with no ill effects.

Yeah, a local cluster of ~8-20 cases and the patients say they were using 'THC' cartridges in a state where it's illegal? People were putting synthetic cannabinoids in e-juice over a decade ago, and I'd be surprised if there wasn't still a market for it. I'd also be surprised if the actual chemicals being used haven't evolved to keep up with regulations - at this point they'd probably be dozens of analogues away from…

Yes, from own experiences, the cheap carts [dank/mario cart] which are black market only labels use thc analogues while the ones that make it here that are sold in dispensaries are generally legit [rove/tko]

From what I've read about opiate analogues, whatever thc analogues they're using ~15 years after the Huffman paper are far removed from their original state.

I can also confirm there is a tremendous demand for thc carts in non-legal states.

Re: Wisconsin Officials Urge People to Stop Vaping After Sudden Rise in Lung Disease

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They likely got a bad batch of THC cartridges, there's a ton of black market ones going around all over, with who knows what in them. Millions of people use nicotine vaporizers daily with no ill effects.

> Millions of people use nicotine vaporizers daily with no ill effects.

The movement against tobacco hasn't failed, but it is in the trough of its cycle.

Re: Wisconsin Officials Urge People to Stop Vaping After Sudden Rise in Lung Disease

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Note that the black vape on the right in the photo is very much unlike the other two.

It’s a dry herb cannabis vaporizer —- oddly, one of the very few that’s a certified medical device. (it’s a storz and bickel crafty)

There’s a vast difference between concentrate/ejuice/distillate vapes and something like a crafty.

It would be nice if the two categories of vapes could be separated more cleanly when discussing health effects because it would separate a lot of the variables.

Re: Wisconsin Officials Urge People to Stop Vaping After Sudden Rise in Lung Disease

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, a local cluster of ~8-20 cases and the patients say they were using 'THC' cartridges in a state where it's illegal? People were putting synthetic cannabinoids in e-juice over a decade ago, and I'd be surprised if there wasn't still a market for it. I'd also be surprised if the actual chemicals being used haven't evolved to keep up with regulations - at this point they'd probably be dozens of analogues away from…

Yes, from own experiences, the cheap carts [dank/mario cart] which are black market only labels use thc analogues while the ones that make it here that are sold in dispensaries are generally legit [rove/tko] From what I've read about opiate analogues, whatever thc analogues they're using ~15 years after the Huffman paper are far removed from their original state. I can also confirm there is a tremendous demand for th…

Very interesting to see JWH discussed on HN. This stuff was BIGGG about a decade ago, and then I stopped hearing about it. It's crazy to see they are still playing the game of cat and mouse with these analogues, and even getting them into the black market carts.

I have medical so thankfully I don't need to mess with the black market at this point. I would _highly_ advise against using any synthetic cannabinoids.

Re: Wisconsin Officials Urge People to Stop Vaping After Sudden Rise in Lung Disease

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Note that the black vape on the right in the photo is very much unlike the other two. It’s a dry herb cannabis vaporizer —- oddly, one of the very few that’s a certified medical device. (it’s a storz and bickel crafty) There’s a vast difference between concentrate/ejuice/distillate vapes and something like a crafty. It would be nice if the two categories of vapes could be separated more cleanly when discussing health…

Yes, flower vapes are not even in the same realm. What do you expect from 'Gizmodo', though?

Surprised this isn't a banned source. Have people forgot Gawker so quickly?

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