Apple will add 5G to 2020 iPhones to compete with Android, analyst says
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Re: Apple will add 5G to 2020 iPhones to compete with Android, analyst says
#2Given the current state of mobile data offering across the globe (how limited and expensive the offer is), I wouldn’t worry too much about 5G yet.
Re: Apple will add 5G to 2020 iPhones to compete with Android, analyst says
#3I’m not so sure that most consumers will think “5g is a necessary function.” Without millimeter wave 5g is only slightly faster than 4g, and millimeter wave coverage will be worse than WiFi pretty much everywhere but the most densely populated regions.
Re: Apple will add 5G to 2020 iPhones to compete with Android, analyst says
#4I’m not so sure that most consumers will think “5g is a necessary function.” Without millimeter wave 5g is only slightly faster than 4g, and millimeter wave coverage will be worse than WiFi pretty much everywhere but the most densely populated regions.
While it hasn’t reached its promised speeds, I wouldn’t at all call it only slightly faster.
Re: Apple will add 5G to 2020 iPhones to compete with Android, analyst says
#5Just sharing the obligatory cancer scare articles. It's obvious to me that radiation of all kinds has an effect on us, whether that is non-ionizing or not. I think a lot more independent research needs to be done in this area, lest we look back on this time in a similar way to doctors endorsing cigarettes.
"Bay Area city blocks 5G deployments over cancer concerns" https://techcrunch.com/2018/09/10/bay-area-city-blocks-5g-de...
"Don’t keep cell phones next to your body, California Health Department warns" https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/15/dont-keep-cell-phones-next...
Re: Apple will add 5G to 2020 iPhones to compete with Android, analyst says
#6Just sharing the obligatory cancer scare articles. It's obvious to me that radiation of all kinds has an effect on us, whether that is non-ionizing or not. I think a lot more independent research needs to be done in this area, lest we look back on this time in a similar way to doctors endorsing cigarettes. "Bay Area city blocks 5G deployments over cancer concerns" https://techcrunch.com/2018/09/10/bay-area-city-block…
If you want to know why America has such shitty infrastructure (especially cities like San Francisco where the density should warrant it), here is Exhibit A. Environmental studies, aesthetic objections,[1] fake health concerns, etc. In the 4.6 years Americans spend to prepare the average Environmental Impact Statement for an infrastructure project, Europeans can build city-wide subway systems or tunnel through mountains.
Other countries are not going to hold up 5G deployment over fake health concerns. If we don't want 5G to be yet another area, like transit and roads, where the US lags woefully behind Europe and Japan, we must fight such distractions.
[1] Remember when San Francisco held up AT&T fiber deployment in the city for years with a lawsuit about ugly fiber boxes? https://stopthecap.com/2011/06/29/san-francisco-still-in-sta...
Re: Apple will add 5G to 2020 iPhones to compete with Android, analyst says
#7Just sharing the obligatory cancer scare articles. It's obvious to me that radiation of all kinds has an effect on us, whether that is non-ionizing or not. I think a lot more independent research needs to be done in this area, lest we look back on this time in a similar way to doctors endorsing cigarettes. "Bay Area city blocks 5G deployments over cancer concerns" https://techcrunch.com/2018/09/10/bay-area-city-block…
If you want to know why America has such shitty infrastructure (especially cities like San Francisco where the density should warrant it), here is Exhibit A. Environmental studies, aesthetic objections,[1] fake health concerns, etc. In the 4.6 years Americans spend to prepare the average Environmental Impact Statement for an infrastructure project, Europeans can build city-wide subway systems or tunnel through mounta…
The radiation and cancer concern is categorically different than "not in my backyard".
If you can't see that these are totally unrelated, then I don't know what to say.
Fiber lines are completely different than "hey these rats that are constantly exposed to 5G radiation that's 20 yards away are acting all messed up".
Re: Apple will add 5G to 2020 iPhones to compete with Android, analyst says
#8I’m not so sure that most consumers will think “5g is a necessary function.” Without millimeter wave 5g is only slightly faster than 4g, and millimeter wave coverage will be worse than WiFi pretty much everywhere but the most densely populated regions.
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Re: Apple will add 5G to 2020 iPhones to compete with Android, analyst says
#9Can rural iPhone users manually disable mmWave radios on their local devices, since there will be no use for the beamforming receiver outside of urban areas?
On a related topic, 6Ghz WiFi (unlicensed and unmetered) is needed for AR glasses which won't have the battery power for cellular service, https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2019/7/23/20707456/6...
> Apple, Google, Microsoft, Facebook, HP, Qualcomm, Intel, Broadcom, and Marvell ... are petitioning the FCC to approve a new Very Low Power (VLP) category of Wi-Fi where small, low-power devices like smartphones that transmit below a certain power threshold (14 dBm EIRP) could traverse the 6GHz spectrum ... short-range, point-to-point connections between two devices — think within a room, not across your house. The letter suggests they could deliver 2Gbps at a distance of 3 meters
Short-range 6Ghz VLP WiFi would reduce WiFi congestion in urban areas, where dozens of 2.4Ghz WiFi routers can be visible.
Re: Apple will add 5G to 2020 iPhones to compete with Android, analyst says
#10I’m not so sure that most consumers will think “5g is a necessary function.” Without millimeter wave 5g is only slightly faster than 4g, and millimeter wave coverage will be worse than WiFi pretty much everywhere but the most densely populated regions.
With flagship phone sales plummeting, the industry hopes 5g will save them. I really don’t know anyone that has told me they want or need 5g. With current draconian data plans of just a few gb what use would 5g be to the average consumer?