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Pentagon testing mass surveillance balloons across the US

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Re: Pentagon testing mass surveillance balloons across the US

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> government, law enforcement The thing is when it gets cheap enough, other players start enter the game too. Companies. Criminal gangs. Or even private individuals. A situation of "if surveillance is outlawed, only outlaws will have surveillance" should be taken into account.

Not really. The FAA might have something to say about what floats around the sky. At least in the USA.

I think it's naive to expect a showdown between the FAA and the Pentagon, doubly so one where the FAA wins.

Re: Pentagon testing mass surveillance balloons across the US

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I am not advocating this in the US or anywhere, but how would one disable a surveillance balloon as an act of civil disobedience if necessary (without ending up in jail)?

Lasers are the only workable option, I think. But locating a small object at some km altitude would be nontrivial. And hitting one with a laser would be ~impossible.

Also, it would see scattered light long before you hit it directly. And even if it had an autonomous targeting system, there'd be a record of its movements. So it would be very hard so stay anonymous.

Re: Pentagon testing mass surveillance balloons across the US

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I already do this with the cameras that are in an increasing number of airplane seat backs.

Oh, charming: airplanes now have cameras installed against the will of the airlines operating the planes . https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3022742002

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Re: Pentagon testing mass surveillance balloons across the US

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Not really. The FAA might have something to say about what floats around the sky. At least in the USA.

I think it's naive to expect a showdown between the FAA and the Pentagon, doubly so one where the FAA wins.

But they will likely step in for companies and criminal gangs. This limits to the Government.

Re: Pentagon testing mass surveillance balloons across the US

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really. The FAA might have something to say about what floats around the sky. At least in the USA.

I think it's naive to expect a showdown between the FAA and the Pentagon, doubly so one where the FAA wins.

You missed the point. The FAA will allow government surveillance but not criminal orgs.

Re: Pentagon testing mass surveillance balloons across the US

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I am not advocating this in the US or anywhere, but how would one disable a surveillance balloon as an act of civil disobedience if necessary (without ending up in jail)?

IANAL but acts of civil disobedience usually mean that you refuse to do something peacefully. I’m not sure that there’s a way to passively disarm something.

You are correct. What's the term for a minimally violent act?

Re: Pentagon testing mass surveillance balloons across the US

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I am not advocating this in the US or anywhere, but how would one disable a surveillance balloon as an act of civil disobedience if necessary (without ending up in jail)?

Total novice here, but a drone locked onto the balloon transponder? You could pre-program the drone hours or days in advance. Use all 3D printed parts with reclaimed batteries? Assembled in a clean room? (just a thought experiment)
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