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Google and Mozilla are failing to support browser extension developers

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Re: Google and Mozilla are failing to support browser extension developers

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Maybe it is me, but I seldom see the value of using an extension versus little utilities. It is not as if every mainstream language doesn't have libraries to handle networking requests.

I wrote a security focused javascript, ad and annoyance blocking extension for myself, which is essentially a CSP, script and style injector with keyboard shortcuts. I don't see how utilities can help here.

It would have been done via proxy configuration.

Re: Google and Mozilla are failing to support browser extension developers

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We will get away from auto updating and security issues once we have a feature complete browser and a stable HTML specification. Given past trends I would expect this no earlier than the heat death of the universe.

I disagree. The key driver of the need for auto updates is security patches. Many people would accept missing out on new features. In fact, I suspect some would see that as a positive.

I think the reality is that more people would accept missing out on security patches than missing out on features, once those features gain traction on sites.

For example, Netflix' use of in-browser DRM makes it a must-have for mainstream browsers.

Re: Google and Mozilla are failing to support browser extension developers

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Firefox has a task manager now. They should improve on this to compete with Googles. Nobody wants to type a URL when they can hit an easy shortcut.

I have a hope of remembering about:performance. I can bookmark it, and it's there in autocomplete. You can make a link to it in your webpage or in a nice plugin (which, once it gets a couple thousand users, you can sell to an honest businessman for tens of thousands). Shift-Escape? what? I'm supposed to just randomly press every key combination till something happens?

A shortcut is better than clicking the Hamburger menu icon, then "More" then Task Manager / typing it into the browser.

Re: Google and Mozilla are failing to support browser extension developers

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I’m the author of JSON Formatter [1] with 989,000 users. I probably get a couple of offers a year for it. Of those that have offered specific sums, they ranged from from $10-20k. I always reject them, because it’s pretty obvious they want to turn it into malware. I’ve had a couple of cases where I felt they went to some effort to schmooze me first, presenting themselves as having benign intentions, almost like a care…

$20k seems like a pretty lowball offer? Close to 1M users (plus potential for further growth) and you have me expecting at least $400k... Or, am I expecting too much?

There isn't potential for further growth if it gets bought. They just want to serve malware to the existing userbase.

Re: Google and Mozilla are failing to support browser extension developers

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I wrote a security focused javascript, ad and annoyance blocking extension for myself, which is essentially a CSP, script and style injector with keyboard shortcuts. I don't see how utilities can help here.

It would have been done via proxy configuration.

Sure, it's technically possible, but it's an order of magnitude more work.

Re: Google and Mozilla are failing to support browser extension developers

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NoCoin author here. With approx 700k users across 3 browsers, I have obviously received many emails for purchasing my extension. I have never accepted to sell my project, even when I had some low financial moments, because my intent was never to make money with it. And it being an open source project, it belongs to the community. I would also feel like I am breaching the trust of my users if I decide to hand it over…

If I'm not too intrusive, what's the average offer an extension like yours receives for selling it?

I was never curious enough to read the offers, I just bin those emails. As said, this project was never about being profitable and I am already very grateful for the donations I received.

Re: Google and Mozilla are failing to support browser extension developers

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I’m the author of JSON Formatter [1] with 989,000 users. I probably get a couple of offers a year for it. Of those that have offered specific sums, they ranged from from $10-20k. I always reject them, because it’s pretty obvious they want to turn it into malware. I’ve had a couple of cases where I felt they went to some effort to schmooze me first, presenting themselves as having benign intentions, almost like a care…

$20k seems like a pretty lowball offer? Close to 1M users (plus potential for further growth) and you have me expecting at least $400k... Or, am I expecting too much?

I feel like the rate is determined by the market and/or the profit model of the buyer.

So a) there are other extension authors with similar coverage who are selling out and/or b) they can't turn a reasonable profit at a higher price.

Re: Google and Mozilla are failing to support browser extension developers

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It would have been done via proxy configuration.

Sure, it's technically possible, but it's an order of magnitude more work.

Which prevents any extension author free reign on my browser data.

Re: Google and Mozilla are failing to support browser extension developers

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I know you asked for resources beyond Mozilla's site, but Mozilla's documentation for extension developers is very accessible and includes complete code for example extensions: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/Web...

I will look at it again, thank you!

Chrome's developer site also contains handy stuff too. Many of the chrome. APIs can be accessed by replacing chrome.x with browser.x. Firefox basically uses Chrome's extension APIs.

Re: Google and Mozilla are failing to support browser extension developers

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I don't think devs should be shamed into not selling their software. That's some questionable 'white-knight' ethics. If you sell something, great. if you don't, also great. if you use ads to monetize or sell data, also great. If you use a freemium model which serves ads to the plebs and asks money from the elite, even better. For that matter I don't think open browser producers can be expected to foot the bill for it…

Your really selling your position here by using terms such as "plebs" and elite"
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