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Wikipedia Raises $16 Million to Remain Ad-Free

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Re: Wikipedia Raises $16 Million to Remain Ad-Free

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Great, now how much more money do they need to buy the disk space necessary to stop deletionism?

All the editing history is archived, right?

Some stuff is never written because people know it would be deleted. Other stuff becomes harder to find (do deleted articles come up on searches..?)

Re: Wikipedia Raises $16 Million to Remain Ad-Free

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! So they spent nearly $9M in salaries vs $2M for bandwidth, $1M in travel expenses, $2M in office rent/furniture/meetings https://docs.google.com/gview?url=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikime... 2010 Wikipedia Spending, in USD, in thousands 8,972 Salaries and wages 1,837 Internet hosting 3,270 Capital expenditures 483 Donation processing fees, charitable registrations 2,274 External contractors 864 Travel for staff, Bo…

What's the big deal? Unlike bandwidth people get more and more expensive to employ over time. Health-care and cost of living are two biggies.

I am not sure whether you are trolling. No, that does not mean you get a raise that multiplies it by range of 1.25 to 2.

Re: Wikipedia Raises $16 Million to Remain Ad-Free

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Great, now how much more money do they need to buy the disk space necessary to stop deletionism?

All the editing history is archived, right?

No, normal users cannot see deleted articles or their edit histories (which I think is crazy). Only Wikipedia administrators can see this information.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_policy#Acces... says:

Because many deleted articles are found to contain defamatory or other legally suspect material, deleted pages are not permitted to be generally viewed. However, they remain in the database (at least temporarily) and are accessible to administrators, along with their edit history unless they are oversighted. Any user with a genuine reason to view a copy of a deleted page may request a temporary review (or simply ask an administrator to supply a copy of the page). Note that these requests are likely to be denied if the content has been deleted on legal grounds (such as defamation or copyright violation), or if no good reason is given for the request.

Re: Wikipedia Raises $16 Million to Remain Ad-Free

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I wasn't aware that not meeting that goal would result in slapping ads on articles. Also, Wikipedia itself was fully funded a while ago through next year, the foundation was trying to raise money for other projects and programs that aren't the encyclopedia itself.

Or raising for the future instead of waiting for the imminent to happen, running out of money, and act in desperation.

That would be a good idea, but they seem to do the same thing every year.

Re: Wikipedia Raises $16 Million to Remain Ad-Free

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http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Budget PDF for 2011: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/d/dd/2010-1... (Page 24 for pie chart comparison) Summary: They want to expand, a lot, almost every sector has more than doubled in allocated budget from 09-10s budget

Thanks! So they spent nearly $9M in salaries vs $2M for bandwidth, $1M in travel expenses, $2M in office rent/furniture/meetings https://docs.google.com/gview?url=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikime... 2010 Wikipedia Spending, in USD, in thousands 8,972 Salaries and wages 1,837 Internet hosting 3,270 Capital expenditures 483 Donation processing fees, charitable registrations 2,274 External contractors 864 Travel for staff, Bo…

i'm surprised that a big site like Wikipedia only spends $155K on legal advice

Re: Wikipedia Raises $16 Million to Remain Ad-Free

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I've always thought Google should just buy them. If you're going to index the worlds information, this is a good start. Google has the resources and power to make sure it remains alive and well.

I'm pretty sure Wikipedia isn't for sale.

Buying wikipedia would be like paying money for an empty shell. Editors would leave, starting another service, since all the content is free to use and duplicate.

In fact there are several wikipedia clones out there which just duplicate content, with ads inbetween.

Re: Wikipedia Raises $16 Million to Remain Ad-Free

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Great, now how much more money do they need to buy the disk space necessary to stop deletionism?

There are tens of great arguments you could have made against deletionism, why make a bullshit one? You know it's not about the disk space --- though presumably not all of the 16 people who modded you up know that as well.

Re: Wikipedia Raises $16 Million to Remain Ad-Free

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! So they spent nearly $9M in salaries vs $2M for bandwidth, $1M in travel expenses, $2M in office rent/furniture/meetings https://docs.google.com/gview?url=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikime... 2010 Wikipedia Spending, in USD, in thousands 8,972 Salaries and wages 1,837 Internet hosting 3,270 Capital expenditures 483 Donation processing fees, charitable registrations 2,274 External contractors 864 Travel for staff, Bo…

i'm surprised that a big site like Wikipedia only spends $155K on legal advice

We have lots of processes to head off problems, like OTRS. Also, Wikipedia benefits from the strong safe-harbor provision in the DMCA (the only good part of it).

Re: Wikipedia Raises $16 Million to Remain Ad-Free

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I'm aware it is temporary, but I'm surely not the only one thinking that banner is more annoying than the occasional ad would have been.

They could definitely make a killing with just a single AdSense block at the bottom of every article. Maybe even just the top 1000 articles. Instead, we get places like Answers.com mass-duplicating Wikipedia content and slapping big image ads on it.

Once they allow ad revenue to flow in, they will become dependent on it.

Re: Wikipedia Raises $16 Million to Remain Ad-Free

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Budget PDF for 2011: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/d/dd/2010-1... (Page 24 for pie chart comparison) Summary: They want to expand, a lot, almost every sector has more than doubled in allocated budget from 09-10s budget

Thanks! So they spent nearly $9M in salaries vs $2M for bandwidth, $1M in travel expenses, $2M in office rent/furniture/meetings https://docs.google.com/gview?url=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikime... 2010 Wikipedia Spending, in USD, in thousands 8,972 Salaries and wages 1,837 Internet hosting 3,270 Capital expenditures 483 Donation processing fees, charitable registrations 2,274 External contractors 864 Travel for staff, Bo…

That sounds like a rich travel budget.
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