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Google and Mozilla are failing to support browser extension developers

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Re: Google and Mozilla are failing to support browser extension developers

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Thank you! I'm not a web dev precisely, but I think I can muddle through that :-)

It's essentially the same as a Chrome extension now. Tutorials and documentation for either should work fine.

Extensions written for one should work in the other as well after some minor repackaging.

Re: Google and Mozilla are failing to support browser extension developers

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I know this is tangential-- I would like to write a FF extension -- can anyone point out some good resources for that? Beyond what's on Moz's official site of course.

Since FF and Chrome use almost the same extension API, you can use Google resources to get started, and a lot of it will work on Firefox. The main exception is the identity module, which Chrome requires to be a Google account

Re: Google and Mozilla are failing to support browser extension developers

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That's not their core business. It's redolent of the complaints when Twitter etc limit their API/number of tokens per app etc. They're doing it because it no longer serves a purpose. Perhaps Mozilla is slightly different but Google would only benefit from ad/tracker blockers going away.

It's pretty clearly in line with Mozilla's goals for an Open Internet -- and from a pragmatic point-of-view a mass exodus of extension developers from Chrome would be big problem for Google. I could see this as a way for Mozilla to further distinguish Firefox from Chrome. If Firefox was seen in the developer community as the platform to target if you want to make money, it won't take long for extension developers to…

> an Open Internet

I have no idea what this means, especially capitalized like a brand of some sort, so I don't know how supporting extension developers would help or hinder that.

> users would start to shift towards thinking of Firefox as "the one I can extend."

Users already thought of firefox as the browser you could extend, but mozilla decided that wasn't a priority. I don't see them suddenly reprioritizing that.

Re: Google and Mozilla are failing to support browser extension developers

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Redesign reducing visibility of donation button, and no real support for selling / monetizing your extensions in the stores: totally agreed, they can and likely should do better there. I'd be curious to see if the change had any effect tho, and how much. Above-the-fold is valuable real-estate, it's possible that it's better-utilized after the change, just along a different set of priorities. Direct payment from brows…

Direct payment from browser vendor to useful devs: not sure where that money would come from. Web browsers are insanely profitable thanks to search referrals.

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Re: Google and Mozilla are failing to support browser extension developers

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On the one hand, this seems like a real missed opportunity by Mozilla. As Chrome reigns in extensions that conflict with Google's business model, this is a reason to use Firefox. BUT - extensions are also often the cause of a slow and frustrating Firefox experience, which then leads folks to talk about how Chrome is better-performing/faster (I've been guilty of this myself in the past). Mozilla needs to make sure Fir…

> BUT - extensions are also often the cause of a slow and frustrating Firefox experience

I doubt that this is true. Some extensions like Adblockers even make browsing faster.

Re: Google and Mozilla are failing to support browser extension developers

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>The Chrome Web Store and the Microsoft Store do not offer features for supporting extension developers. That doesn't seem right - doesn't Google let developers monetize extensions in the chrome web store? You can publish Hosted Apps, Chrome Apps, Chrome Extensions, and Themes in the Chrome Web Store. Collectively these are called simply "Items". You have many choices when it comes to making money from items that you…

Google's Web Store payments system is terrible in my experience. I haven't been able to export accounting data for https://autoplaylists.simon.codes since April 2018: I spent almost a year badgering support so I could properly file my taxes.

A letter from the New York AG got them to respond, but I still need to email them every time I need my data (they get an engineer to run a db query manually, from what I can tell).

I did get an email today that they're migrating to a new system, so maybe it'll work in the future, but I wouldn't trust them based on what I've seen.

Re: Google and Mozilla are failing to support browser extension developers

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>The Chrome Web Store and the Microsoft Store do not offer features for supporting extension developers. That doesn't seem right - doesn't Google let developers monetize extensions in the chrome web store? You can publish Hosted Apps, Chrome Apps, Chrome Extensions, and Themes in the Chrome Web Store. Collectively these are called simply "Items". You have many choices when it comes to making money from items that you…

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Re: Google and Mozilla are failing to support browser extension developers

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On the one hand, this seems like a real missed opportunity by Mozilla. As Chrome reigns in extensions that conflict with Google's business model, this is a reason to use Firefox. BUT - extensions are also often the cause of a slow and frustrating Firefox experience, which then leads folks to talk about how Chrome is better-performing/faster (I've been guilty of this myself in the past). Mozilla needs to make sure Fir…

I agree, 100% - missed opportunity for Mozilla.
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