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Re: Norweigan oil fund

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Norway isn't in the EU, so that wouldn't exactly be home for them either.

My bad, you are correct. Anyway, the point still stands. Why not make Oslo the silicon valley of Europe? I mean the weather is roughly the same, give or take 30 degrees :)

If all it took was money, New York would be Silicon Valley.

Re: Norweigan oil fund

#52

The Norwegian success is the single biggest piece of evidence as to why the Venezuelan catastrophe was largely avoidable, and the fault of irresponsible leadership.

Of course it was avoidable. Just should have kept capitalism.

Re: Norweigan oil fund

#53

> On average, the fund holds 1.4 percent of all of the world’s listed companies. Why fund businesses in other countires? Shouldn't Norway try to set up some more industries at home? Everyone claim Europe (was: EU) needs more VC funding to stop the brain drain. Well, here is a huge pool of money just waiting to be spent

Well, yes, they should, but the Norwegian economy is not really built around original ideas. Despite its current image as a country, Norway is historically incredibly conservative and this continues to be the case in their business environment. Nearly all of their exports are petroleum, fish or metal. Try to think of even a single notable Norwegian startup.. without Googling :-D

Re: Norweigan oil fund

#55
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Isn't this contributing to climate change? The economy everyone uses as an example to replace the current system in the US...

Perhaps this is why they can afford many government programs that the US simply cannot. Without a prolific income stream comparable to Norwegian oil, the only way to provide more social services is to tax individuals and businesses harder. Tax any group too heavily and you create brain drain, which hurts in the long run.

> Tax any group too heavily and you create brain drain, which hurts in the long run.

Sweden and Denmark disagree. And they're among the most wealthy countries with the highest standard of living anywhere.

Re: Norweigan oil fund

#56

The Norwegian success is the single biggest piece of evidence as to why the Venezuelan catastrophe was largely avoidable, and the fault of irresponsible leadership.

But what to say about Americans, who squandered natural resources to help the rich, and now the funding to their own social security is en route to insolvency?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Norway is not an EU member, so by funding EU industries, they would found businesses in other countries ;)

We have to follow all their legislations and fund a lot of EU investment (based on our GDP). So we are practically a member, but don't get to vote. This is not a bad thing because EU is mainly about social benefits, and not politics as we are used to (and a lot of people think): http://www.europarl.europa.eu/legislative-train/

EU is also about single market (to simplify life for businesses), which iirc Norway is mostly part of.

Re: Norweigan oil fund

#59
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US produces 10x the oil Norway does, and was producing significant amounts of oil as far back as the 1860s. We've had that profit stream, we just let it get captured by private corporations (or in Alaska's case, given away to garner votes).

Population of Norway, 2017: 5.258 million Population of United States, 2018: 327.2 million

Discovery of oil in the United States: 1859.

Discovery of oil in Norway: 1969.

Imagine if we'd have had the foresight to take Norway's approach that natural resources are the nation's natural resources and let the returns build for 160 years.

Re: Norweigan oil fund

#60
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US produces 10x the oil Norway does, and was producing significant amounts of oil as far back as the 1860s. We've had that profit stream, we just let it get captured by private corporations (or in Alaska's case, given away to garner votes).

Population of Norway, 2017: 5.258 million Population of United States, 2018: 327.2 million

And? The point still stands that the different conception of property rights in the US allows the revenue of natural resources like oil to go to corporations instead of the nation. Even in cases where the resources are on public land the licenses for extraction are often a pittance compared to what the company will make.
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