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Alarming surge in drug-resistant HIV uncovered

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Re: Alarming surge in drug-resistant HIV uncovered

#131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are paying this much because of many reasons non of them is why the rest of the world does not pay its fair share. https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/08061...

Monosopy doesn't depend upon anything the US does. They have local control of IP even if they tied it to others. There would be costs involved but they can always tell them to get stuffed and manufacture their own if they won't be reasonable. Notably there is a lack of pharmaceutical companies who decide to abandon world markets entirely because positive N is always greater than 0.

I mean US produces recently the 57% percent of new drugs.

https://media.xconomy.com/wordpress/wp-content/images/2014/0...

I am not sure this explains the discrepancy between the healthcare cost between US and Switzerland.

More in depth analysis:

"There were two causes of this massive increase: government policy and lifestyle changes.

First, the United States relies on company-sponsored private health insurance. The government created programs like Medicare and Medicaid to help those without insurance. These programs spurred demand for health care services. That gave providers the ability to raise prices. A Princeton University study found that Americans use the same amount of health care as residents of other nations. They just pay more for them. For example, U.S. hospital prices are 60 percent higher than those in Europe. Government efforts to reform health care and cut costs raised them instead. Second, chronic illnesses, such as diabetes and heart disease, have increased. They are responsible for 85 percent of health care costs. Almost half of all Americans have at least one of them. They are expensive and difficult to treat. As a result, the sickest 5 percent of the population consume 50 percent of total health care costs. The healthiest 50 percent only consume 3 percent of the nation's health care costs. Most of these patients are Medicare patients. The U.S. medical profession does a heroic job of saving lives. But it comes at a cost. Medicare spending for patients in the last year of life is six times greater than the average. Care for these patients costs one-fourth of the Medicare budget. In their last six months of life, these patients go to the doctor's office 29 times on average. In their last month of life, half go to the emergency room. One-third wind up in the intensive care unit. One fifth undergo surgery. "

https://www.thebalance.com/causes-of-rising-healthcare-costs...

You can read the rest it is very informative. I still don't think that healthcare cost in the US is caused by the rest of the world not paying their fair share in drug discovery.

Re: Alarming surge in drug-resistant HIV uncovered

#132
post #129

PrEP has negative side effects (besides being quite expensive for the state), condoms on the other side, don't have side effects, and are cheap. It's a matter of having some sense of personal responsibility really.

1. Condoms break

2. Some people are allergic to them

3. There are some activities that you really don't want to do with a condom

4. How about we just don't fucking shame people for not wanting to use a condom as long as both (or all) parties agree. Especially when there is a drug like prep.

Re: Alarming surge in drug-resistant HIV uncovered

#133
post #2

Well, PrEP is a miracle drug that has gone criminally underutilized in the fight to eradicate HIV. It would be nice to see governments really push it hard for a change.

The drug has several non-minor side effects, is prohibitively expensive, and is the same as the treatment for someone who already has the virus. I for one think it's improper to prescribe a drug with these nephrological side effects to a large number of otherwise healthy individuals, not even accounting for the cost.

Where did you go to med school?

Re: Alarming surge in drug-resistant HIV uncovered

#134
post #129

PrEP has negative side effects (besides being quite expensive for the state), condoms on the other side, don't have side effects, and are cheap. It's a matter of having some sense of personal responsibility really.

1. Condoms break 2. Some people are allergic to them 3. There are some activities that you really don't want to do with a condom 4. How about we just don't fucking shame people for not wanting to use a condom as long as both (or all) parties agree. Especially when there is a drug like prep.

> How about we just don't fucking shame people for not wanting to use a condom as long as both (or all) parties agree. Especially when there is a drug like prep.

That depends if it's those people bearing the full cost of buying PrEP, or if they expect the state/insurance companies to do it for them.

Re: Alarming surge in drug-resistant HIV uncovered

#135
post #129

PrEP has negative side effects (besides being quite expensive for the state), condoms on the other side, don't have side effects, and are cheap. It's a matter of having some sense of personal responsibility really.

> It's a matter of having some sense of personal responsibility really.

This exact phrase was used to spin the deaths of thousands of gay men as a personal failing not many years ago. Stop doing it.

Re: Alarming surge in drug-resistant HIV uncovered

#136
post #129

PrEP has negative side effects (besides being quite expensive for the state), condoms on the other side, don't have side effects, and are cheap. It's a matter of having some sense of personal responsibility really.

> It's a matter of having some sense of personal responsibility really. This exact phrase was used to spin the deaths of thousands of gay men as a personal failing not many years ago. Stop doing it.

If anyone, regardless of their sexual orientation, in this day and age and in a developed country, catches an STD for not using condoms when they should, you can be certain it's their lack of personal responsibility.

Re: Alarming surge in drug-resistant HIV uncovered

#138
post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Condoms break 2. Some people are allergic to them 3. There are some activities that you really don't want to do with a condom 4. How about we just don't fucking shame people for not wanting to use a condom as long as both (or all) parties agree. Especially when there is a drug like prep.

> How about we just don't fucking shame people for not wanting to use a condom as long as both (or all) parties agree. Especially when there is a drug like prep. That depends if it's those people bearing the full cost of buying PrEP, or if they expect the state/insurance companies to do it for them.

Why not, in most not ass backwards places you can get free condoms. Maybe it should not cost $1300 a month for no good reason in the US.

Re: Alarming surge in drug-resistant HIV uncovered

#139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The drug has several non-minor side effects, is prohibitively expensive, and is the same as the treatment for someone who already has the virus. I for one think it's improper to prescribe a drug with these nephrological side effects to a large number of otherwise healthy individuals, not even accounting for the cost.

Where did you go to med school?

What a snide reply. Is it necessary to be a doctor to have an opinion on healthcare policy?

Re: Alarming surge in drug-resistant HIV uncovered

#140
post #2

Well, PrEP is a miracle drug that has gone criminally underutilized in the fight to eradicate HIV. It would be nice to see governments really push it hard for a change.

Unless PrEP succeeds in eradicating HIV (which might be possible if enough people are on it to limit the spread of the virus), it seems tailor-made to breed resistance. We don't generally give antibiotics prophylactically. Using anti-retrovirals this way seems like a bad idea from a drug resistance perspective.

We don't give antibiotics prophylactically, except in the circumstances where it is seen as warranted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibiotic_prophylaxis

(I'm talking about the use in humans there)

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