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Advertising Is a Cancer on Society

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Re: Advertising Is a Cancer on Society

#71
I honestly wish I could get a data only phone without a dedicated phone number. I get an average of 10 calls a day from random spammers claiming I'm owed $5,000 to IRS etc...

Only thing stopping me is a lot of companies have moved to 2FA via my call phone number as opposed to an authenticator app.

Re: Advertising Is a Cancer on Society

#72
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He doesn't quite say it by name, but most advertising is a classic arms race. Especially given how the internet now makes information easily available, a great deal of advertising is about manipulating consumers to pick company A's products over those from competitors B, C, and D. This forces those other companies to spend to get and keep customers. It's pure waste. For example, everybody on the planet is now familia…

You don't think they have ever tried that. They stopped ad spend in certain locations and in those locations sales went down.

People don't have time to research every single choice in their lives. At some point you just go with brand trust. When I see Uncle Floyd's Cola and CocaCola, I just go with what I know. Advertising establishes brand trust.

Re: Advertising Is a Cancer on Society

#73

We get rid of it, Google/Facebook/etc. shut down. While social media is of arguable benefits, Google has provided incalculable value to the world. Ads are the magic money fountain that give them the power to organize all of human knowledge, a phenomenal resource anyone can tap.

Wikipedia provides more value to me than Google, and it doesn't rely on adverts.

And static websites with mostly text are very cheap to host now, and there are lots of people willing to share their knowledge without adverts. That was how it was usually done before the rise of web advertising, and old-fashioned websites still exist. You don't even need search engines to find them; there are volunteer-run directory projects like Curlie (successor to Open Directory Project and DMOZ).

Bloated websites full of video and megabytes of Javascript are probably too expensive to host without adverts, but I think the web would probably be better without them. I'd miss Youtube, but how many Youtube videos are really the best way to present the content and a good use of your time? A non-commercial web is possible.

Re: Advertising Is a Cancer on Society

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? They're a net negative to society (soft drinks themselves, that is)

Couldn't the same be said of any luxury?

I’ve not considered coke to be a luxury product before. But if you mean that it’s not a necessity, it guess... maybe?

Re: Advertising Is a Cancer on Society

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If you stop watching ads for awhile and go back to it you’ll see how mind numbing it all really is. I aggressively block ads - no exceptions.

When I moved from Europe to the US I just couldn't believe it. In my home country there is one commercial break during a 2 hour movie. It's a little longer than the breaks in the US, but there is only one. There is also one during a 45minute TV show, and none during a 20minute show. I can't tell you the shock when I started watching American TV. I couldn't believe people were putting up with this.

I wish America would group TV ads together, it would make them much easier to skip and would remove the need for forced cutoffs (you really notice them when watching on non-cable sources)

Re: Advertising Is a Cancer on Society

#77
post #50

I recall watching, some years ago, a documentary about the making of Tetris in which one of the contributors noted how much less colourful public spaces were in the advertising-free Soviet Union compared to the West. Which isn't to say that a better balance couldn't be struck (in the West and elsewhere) now, but 'cancer' is the sort of thing you want to eradicate rather than moderate.

So you think the reason the Soviet union was less colourful was because there wasn't ads?

You realize that advertising isn't what created coloured paints or what allows us to plant flowers right?

Re: Advertising Is a Cancer on Society

#78
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We get rid of it, Google/Facebook/etc. shut down. While social media is of arguable benefits, Google has provided incalculable value to the world. Ads are the magic money fountain that give them the power to organize all of human knowledge, a phenomenal resource anyone can tap.

I'm not convinced that there's no other possible business model for a search engine.

What do you suggest?

Re: Advertising Is a Cancer on Society

#80

This is a dogmatic viewpoint I think often seen in very technical people who are unwilling to see the interconnectedness of how our society works. I bet there's any number of things this person values that simply wouldn't exist without advertising. It's a childish and immature opinion really. Anyone who hates advertising this much should show their commitment by working at an organization that does not advertise. Loa…

There is a wide range of aggression in advertising tactics, and the arguments made in the article apply in proportion to that aggressiveness. It is not necessary to eliminate all advertising to start recognizing and addressing these problems.
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