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The Beginning of the End of the Beef Industry?

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Re: The Beginning of the End of the Beef Industry?

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This whole submarine vegan agenda is annoying. Yes, people will choose to go with the artificial beef. No it's not going to replace beef. It's a subsitute.

A few things:

1. Cows are not optimized to make meat: Animals aren't a food factory. Animals eat other animals. We are animals and happen to have a wide variety of what we can eat

2. There are distinct benefits from eating meat (vitamins), in which it's incredibly inefficient from getting them from plants

3. The feedlots and environmental problems, that's an issue of our economy. Theres a particular expectation on output.

4. The impossible burger: The author is incredibly disingenuous about the comparison. He is trying to claim that the burger has so many bad aspects but completely ignores how ultra-processed the beyond burger is.

5. The author is completely obsessed on cows. There are MANY more alternatives to cows that you can eat.

Re: The Beginning of the End of the Beef Industry?

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"Chipotle, Arby’s and Burger & Lobster are not jumping on the Beyond Meat and Impossible Foods plant-based culinary movement ... We have spoken to those folks and, unfortunately, it wouldn’t fit in our ‘food with integrity’ principals because of the processing, as I understand it, that it takes to make a plant taste like a burger. ... Are they healthier as far as sodium, calories and fat content? Definitely not ... Zarabi says processed foods, whether they’re meatless or meat-containing, are never the healthiest choice."

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-some-restaurants-are-t...

Re: The Beginning of the End of the Beef Industry?

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I disagree with this piece; it seems like the author doesn't like beef in general (which is fine) but I don't think most people will give up beef for "alt meat". I think it will just be another option, not a replacement. And sales still seem strong to me: https://www.statista.com/statistics/542890/beef-consumption-...

Re: The Beginning of the End of the Beef Industry?

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I just learned this bit on the radio the other day and was quite surprised: out of 1.9 billion acres in the US, the #1 and #3 ranked uses are cattle and crops (respectively) [1]. Out of the crops, much of it is used for livestock.

[1] https://www.npr.org/2019/07/26/745731823/the-u-s-has-nearly-...

Re: The Beginning of the End of the Beef Industry?

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Nope.

Last time I checked, not all beef is consumed as hamburgers.

The alt meat craze (if there is one) is due to the novelty factor. The interest will decline over time.

That said, what does a raw Impossible Burger taste like? A raw hamburger?

Imagine wolfing down a raw one in front of a group of unknowing and terrified onlookers.

Re: The Beginning of the End of the Beef Industry?

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um... "The California-based company said net loss widened to $6.6 million in the three months ended March 30, from $5.7 million a year earlier. First-quarter net revenue came in at $40.2 million, an increase of 215%, the company said. Analysts had expected revenue of $38.9 million." - reuters.

I may be cynic, but that is not sound good. If your net losses outpace your net revenue, no matter how good that meat is, you are not going to make it.

And, why did the share prices (BYND) fall since July 26? Someone exiting?

There is no such thing as "alt meat". Is a bicycle alt SUV? Or alt vacation for extra work hours? alt paycheck is a sub sandwich?

What is the point of trying to match what you are trying to eradicate?

So, where is the beef?

Re: The Beginning of the End of the Beef Industry?

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I'm starting to think more and more that people promoting plant based burgers have either never tasted beef or never tasted a plant based burger.

If the main concern is environment I get it and go for it. But if you are claiming that plant based burgers are healthier or tastier you are borderline delusional.

Last time I cooked a Beyond Meat burger I noticed it was 30% canola oil. 30% CANOLA OIL, might as well just inject cholesterol and fast forward a heart attack.

I still get nightmares when I think of how bad the flavor was, think of the most processed food you possibly can like jolly ranchers and then imagine a salty fatty version of it.

I legit don't understand how this trend keeps going even though vegetarian burgers made with vegetables are delicious and way healthier and there are alternative cuisines like Indian or Mediterranean that gives you loads of options that aren't basically CANOLA OIL.

Re: The Beginning of the End of the Beef Industry?

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post #2

This whole submarine vegan agenda is annoying. Yes, people will choose to go with the artificial beef. No it's not going to replace beef. It's a subsitute. A few things: 1. Cows are not optimized to make meat: Animals aren't a food factory. Animals eat other animals. We are animals and happen to have a wide variety of what we can eat 2. There are distinct benefits from eating meat (vitamins), in which it's incredibly…

In the article the author talks about eating both a beef burger and cheese, so I don't think he has a "vegan agenda".

> 2. There are distinct benefits from eating meat (vitamins), in which it's incredibly inefficient from getting them from plants

Raising meat with today's common production methods (feed lots) is incredibly inefficient. In fact, a plant based diet can meet all nutritional requirements with just B12 vitamins. Many vitamins and minerals in meat and dairy are there because of supplementation, not because they're natural.

> 3. The feedlots and environmental problems, that's an issue of our economy. Theres a particular expectation on output.

Which is why plant based diets, both processed foods like these burgers and un/ lightly processed (beans, nuts, tofu and tempeh, pulses) are a solution. They can be grown much more efficiently than meat and take a huge load off of our environment and emissions.

> 5. The author is completely obsessed on cows. There are MANY more alternatives to cows that you can eat.

Cows are also some of the worst animal agriculture product emissions wise and a good chunk of the standard American diet. It's also definitely the star of these fast food restaurants he discusses that these plant based meats are aiming for.

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