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Filling hospitals with art reduces patient stress, anxiety and pain

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Re: Filling hospitals with art reduces patient stress, anxiety and pain

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Post by derivagral »

Kalium wrote: post #34
arkades wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most health insurance has a profit margin in the vicinity of 10%. They introduce many problems into the healthcare market, but if you think they’re the reason people can’t afford healthcare, you are mistaken. I don’t mean to sound snarky here, but: if you believe you can boil down one of the most fractured, complex, and heavily regulated industries (really, set of inter-related industries) in the country to a single…

> Most health insurance has a profit margin in the vicinity of 10%. They introduce many problems into the healthcare market, but if you think they’re the reason people can’t afford healthcare, you are mistaken. People see a lot of money flowing into insurers and hear about large profit numbers. That makes it feel like they're the obvious problem.

I've (anecdotally) noticed that people and candidates tend to refer to insurance costs, vs costs of the underlying. My perception is that they want "medical insurance" to really be a subsidy, not classic insurance.

Re: Filling hospitals with art reduces patient stress, anxiety and pain

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Post by AdmiralAsshat »

They should probably qualify what kind of art seems to reduce anxiety. I could line a patient waiting room with H.R. Giger paintings, but that might not achieve the same result:

https://slowsoulburn.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/hr_giger_du...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lwoGruDK7ww/TWaPQYPMQ9I/AAAAAAAAAc...

https://slowsoulburn.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/hr-giger_00...

https://pickadolla.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/elp___h_r_gig...

Re: Filling hospitals with art reduces patient stress, anxiety and pain

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Post by arkades »

_carl_jung wrote: post #29
arkades wrote: post #9

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Hospitals will have all of those things the moment people are willing to pay for them. Some hospitals have those now - for the sort of hospitals that predominantly serve patients with excellent insurance for high margin activities or who are paying cash. Eg, top tier specialty surgical centers and dedicated cancer centers. Most patients can’t afford their meds, or any type of hospital stay. They’re not paying a premi…

Interestingly, this comment can be read as either pro-socialist or pro-free-market. In either case, it's plainly true. The cost has to be covered _somehow_. We should find a way to make it happen.

Thank you.

My politics aside - which on healthcare include both socialism and free market capitalism, to different degrees in different contexts - I really was just trying to communicate the straight fact, and I’m very appreciative of your recognition of that. In these discussions, it often seems like people assume that healthcare and associated amenities are created from thin air, and when less than ideal, are so due strictly to malice or indifference. Which couldn’t be further from the truth.

Re: Filling hospitals with art reduces patient stress, anxiety and pain

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Post by dalbasal »

kartan wrote: post #16

I have been working in some fast-growing software companies. Every few years, we change office and get one in a better place, with new furniture, fancier each time, tv monitor is everywhere, each wall had pictures and was colourful. I had to go to the hospital, nothing serious. It was so extremely sad to see 30-40 years old furniture, dark rooms that had never been re-painted, power outlets had been refurbished for t…

> Are we, as a society, investing in the right things?

This kind of question can be tricky. It biases the answer. The answer is usually "No, but it's hard to agree about what the right things are."

But in a lot of cases, how is as important as how much.. and related. Are we doing this the right way? Are the right people making the right decisions?

A hospital or an industry is also a culture, and they often do things for cultural reasons.

The "fast-growing software companies" have a culture of nice offices. The economic rationale is that it's cheap, helps recruit, and possibly adds to moral or productivity or somesuch.

Hospitals have a utilitarian culture, austere at times. Older culture, more complicated reasons. A lot of the difference (since we're talking about appearances) is down to what they want to project and to whom.

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Post by bin0 »

covercash wrote: post #25
hanniabu wrote: post #22

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> they need to be cleaned thoroughly and completely I don't know what hospitals you're going to but the ones in the US don't qualify that statement. Would I say they're filthy? No, but they certainly don't look like they're cleaned often, thoroughly, or completely.

Agreed, pretty much every hospital room I’ve been in has mystery stains on the ceiling. It’s so common that I’d point them out to my family members and we’d wonder out loud what the cause could have been. Edit: there was even one room where I put on rubber gloves and used the disinfectant wipes from the janitor’s cart to clean dried blood from my IV pole and the bed rails.

That depends to which tier of hospital you go. On the other end, of course, I have a friend who had to get treatment in Italy and was required to bring her own needles. This was in-patient surgery. Also, the nurse tried to re-use them and called her a "wasteful American" when she told her to get a clean one.

Re: Filling hospitals with art reduces patient stress, anxiety and pain

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Post by covercash »

bin0 wrote: post #46
covercash wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, pretty much every hospital room I’ve been in has mystery stains on the ceiling. It’s so common that I’d point them out to my family members and we’d wonder out loud what the cause could have been. Edit: there was even one room where I put on rubber gloves and used the disinfectant wipes from the janitor’s cart to clean dried blood from my IV pole and the bed rails.

That depends to which tier of hospital you go. On the other end, of course, I have a friend who had to get treatment in Italy and was required to bring her own needles. This was in-patient surgery. Also, the nurse tried to re-use them and called her a "wasteful American" when she told her to get a clean one.

My experiences took place in hospitals in and around the Philadelphia area, certainly not low tier.

Re: Filling hospitals with art reduces patient stress, anxiety and pain

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Post by volkk »

artur_makly wrote: post #36

We've realized that years ago..that's why we launched: https://POPteam.io There is no better feeling than seeing all those boring spiritually sterile hallways magically transform into a kaleidoscope of humanity.

are you specifically targeting hospitals and working with them? or is this just a plug for some random startup that does art for other startups
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