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US could ban 'addictive' autoplay videos and infinite scrolling online

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Re: US could ban 'addictive' autoplay videos and infinite scrolling online

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Search "social media mental health study". Theres a flood of universities that have pretty good evidence of social media causing a lot of mental health issues. Namely towards teens and young adults who grew up with it. Yes, it does seem silly, but the rise of anxiety and depression in society is linked to social media. Theres a good reason why people do the social media fasts and cleanses. A lot don't go back.

That is a social media problem not infinite scrolling problem.

Tell that to a person in bed, scrolling through Facebook for hours on end. If the content stopped at some point they would do something else hopefully. Compared to TV the pacing is such that people get hooked like on slot machines.

Re: US could ban 'addictive' autoplay videos and infinite scrolling online

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I hope that if they ban addictive autoplay, they apply the ruling first to broadcast TV.

"addictive" being the key word, I think - which implies machine intelligence picking the next show, not network executives.

But isn't the network executive executing the same intent as the machine, just at a lower quality level?

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Regulating infinite scrolling seems like a major overregulation. Even if it kinda makes sense in terms of FB, Twitter, and other social media newsfeeds, it's still a great (and beneficial) UX in many other cases. Overusing social media could be solved via e.g. Screen Time or a similar time-limiting solution (perhaps w/o an option to "snooze" the daily limit if a parent set it on a child's device).

While, I do agree with you that it does seem a bit on the overregulation, I absolutely hate, with all the fiber of my being, infinite scrolling. Especially if I accidentally click something or don't middle click. Then I hit back just to start at the beginning of the fucking page. Normally just get angry and go "fuck it" to do something else. It's also just so janky too. I've never been on a site that does it and feel it's any better than pages. At that, I never felt when on a page site that infinite scrolling is needed. It's a solution with no real problem.

I hate it and will gladly dance on its grave for those reasons alone.

Re: US could ban 'addictive' autoplay videos and infinite scrolling online

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The Republican Party in the US is famously anti-regulation of large corporations, and "pro-business," yet this is coming from the Republican side. Is there any sort of rationale provided for this seemingly massive ideological shift? Regulation of industry is usually off the table when this party is in control, at least when it comes to pollution or other consumer harms by business.

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I don't like sites with autoplay. I only expect autoplay when the page I am about to visit is in a video site like YouTube. I hate it when I am reading a news article and a video autoplays. Autoscrolling also can be irritating. If I click a TechCrunch article on HN, I don't want TC to load more articles at the end of the article I was reading without my consent. It is better to suggest related articles and give me an…

> I only expect autoplay when the page I am about to visit is in a video site like YouTube.

Here's the problem with it. There are exceptions, but it's extremely difficult to write the law in a way that can't be gamed if you allow exceptions.

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The scope of this bill is within social media networks, and is not blanket autoplay and infinite scroll - it seems to be aiming specifically at automated UI that the user has not indicated they want, and has no option to stop. It has a number of other provisions. It requires the defaults to be "off". It requires legal agreements' Yes/No buttons be standardized on the site and neutral (no split fonts, colors, sizes, etc).

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I don't like sites with autoplay. I only expect autoplay when the page I am about to visit is in a video site like YouTube. I hate it when I am reading a news article and a video autoplays. Autoscrolling also can be irritating. If I click a TechCrunch article on HN, I don't want TC to load more articles at the end of the article I was reading without my consent. It is better to suggest related articles and give me an…

> I hate it when I am reading a news article and a video autoplays. Not only that, but the video follows you around while you scroll and most of the time you can't get it off your screen.

Not sure what is the benefit of that video that follows you. If I wanted to watch the video, I was going stop scrolling and watch it. In most cases, those videos don't even allow you to pause them. They disable the pause button.

Re: US could ban 'addictive' autoplay videos and infinite scrolling online

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Regulating infinite scrolling seems like a major overregulation. Even if it kinda makes sense in terms of FB, Twitter, and other social media newsfeeds, it's still a great (and beneficial) UX in many other cases. Overusing social media could be solved via e.g. Screen Time or a similar time-limiting solution (perhaps w/o an option to "snooze" the daily limit if a parent set it on a child's device).

While, I do agree with you that it does seem a bit on the overregulation, I absolutely hate, with all the fiber of my being, infinite scrolling. Especially if I accidentally click something or don't middle click. Then I hit back just to start at the beginning of the fucking page. Normally just get angry and go "fuck it" to do something else. It's also just so janky too. I've never been on a site that does it and feel…

It depends on the use case and how it is being implemented. I wouldn’t ban a tech because it was not used appropriately once in the past.
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