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Understanding Bihar’s Super 30 Phenomenon

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Re: Understanding Bihar’s Super 30 Phenomenon

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IITians.. paid for by the Indian tax payer. But of no use to India, but US.

> IITians..

Why target only IITians, even non-IITians migrate in large numbers. Also, they are not 100% to blame for this, if you foster a good environment nobody will leave. Everyone is to be blamed.

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Entrance exam culture is biggest bullshit of the century India facing. On one hand college dropout are starting startups and disciplined intelligence thrown in to mindless clerical works, ultimately proving first idea works better than the second.

Very similarly, the tech industry requires you to leetcode non stop. I wish it stops too.

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Unpopular opinion: this is not the way engineering should be taught, to ace a stupid test. I understand these are economically underprivileged kids and I wish them best, but I would really love it if someone followed up on where they end up after graduation. I’m hoping that as the economy develops further, the need to go to such extremes will diminish and folks can pursue their true calling.

Anecdotal, but many of them end up in the Bay Area (my dad is one of them).

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post #6

Unpopular opinion: this is not the way engineering should be taught, to ace a stupid test. I understand these are economically underprivileged kids and I wish them best, but I would really love it if someone followed up on where they end up after graduation. I’m hoping that as the economy develops further, the need to go to such extremes will diminish and folks can pursue their true calling.

> this is not the way engineering should be taught

Nit: "super 30" is not about teaching engineering. That begins after the said exam.

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post #6

Unpopular opinion: this is not the way engineering should be taught, to ace a stupid test. I understand these are economically underprivileged kids and I wish them best, but I would really love it if someone followed up on where they end up after graduation. I’m hoping that as the economy develops further, the need to go to such extremes will diminish and folks can pursue their true calling.

I for one hope that education moves online completely. In india, the education sector cannot meet the demand and as a result it's filled with meaningless tests.

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post #6

Unpopular opinion: this is not the way engineering should be taught, to ace a stupid test. I understand these are economically underprivileged kids and I wish them best, but I would really love it if someone followed up on where they end up after graduation. I’m hoping that as the economy develops further, the need to go to such extremes will diminish and folks can pursue their true calling.

Taxpayer money shouldn't be spent in funding such competition. While education systems in west are focused towards collaboration, Indian education system makes them compete against each other like wild dogs. When will India understand, it's not about competition but collaboration. We can argue this system creates very few winners and a lot of people feel like losers in this system. If they made them feel better, they…

>While education systems in west are focused towards collaboration

Citation needed. Capitalism is basically "free for all competition" in a nutshell.

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Taxpayer money shouldn't be spent in funding such competition. While education systems in west are focused towards collaboration, Indian education system makes them compete against each other like wild dogs. When will India understand, it's not about competition but collaboration. We can argue this system creates very few winners and a lot of people feel like losers in this system. If they made them feel better, they…

>While education systems in west are focused towards collaboration Citation needed. Capitalism is basically "free for all competition" in a nutshell.

that's a cynical view. Capitalism is the freedom to buy and sell from whoever you choose. If what you choose to sell is something so unique, you'll escape competition.

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post #6

Unpopular opinion: this is not the way engineering should be taught, to ace a stupid test. I understand these are economically underprivileged kids and I wish them best, but I would really love it if someone followed up on where they end up after graduation. I’m hoping that as the economy develops further, the need to go to such extremes will diminish and folks can pursue their true calling.

> someone followed up on where they end up after graduation There you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSwi3RcVBzw It is mostly big banks, big and medium IT companies.

The amazing engineering work at ISRO is mostly engineers from regional non-IITian colleges.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but IIT was not be-all end-all. There was always DCE, REC. Its a way to use as filters at later stage of life. Job or marriage (see iitiimshaadi.com). Top 2% or top 10%.

Man I am glad I missed all this. And not even sure how this would have worked. Back in my days at IITB we had about 350 boys and 7 girls.

Prettier/fairer the girl, the higher the IIT rank of the guy. Isn't that how it's been working since forever?

Re: Understanding Bihar’s Super 30 Phenomenon

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IITians are demi gods in India. This status puts a lot of pressure on student at a young age to crack this entrance. So much so, that there are regular cases of students committing suicide due to the pressure from society and family.

For many who don't know, there are coaching classes where preparation for the exam is begun as early as the 5th or 6th grade.

It took me 2 years to get over the failure of not getting into IIT. It's a really messed up situation. I really hope parents understand the situation and stop traumatizing their kids.

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