Moving the Linux desktop to another reality

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Post by mfilion » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 3:23 PM UTC

Moving the Linux desktop to another reality
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Re: Moving the Linux desktop to another reality

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Post by georgewsinger » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 5:48 PM UTC

One of the authors of Simula[1] here (mentioned in this article).

xrdesktop looks very impressive. We've been working on our compositor (in particular: XWayland support) for quite a while. Getting a prototype up and running was relatively easy. But it has been incredibly difficult to get everything actually stable/usable.

Congrats to your team.

[1] https://github.com/SimulaVR/Simula

Re: Moving the Linux desktop to another reality

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Post by skrowl » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 5:58 PM UTC

I really wish the "Yay, linux on the desktop" crowd would rally around ChromeOS. ChromeOS is literally what the "linux on the desktop" crowd has been wanted for decades now.

Re: Moving the Linux desktop to another reality

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Post by Zak » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 6:00 PM UTC

I've been wanting the option of a VR desktop for a while now. Last I looked, it wasn't ready for prime time, and that's still my impression now. I find a small 16:9 screen pretty unacceptable for coding, and the market currently offers very limited options for anything taller in a laptop.

I'm eager to see where this goes, and may need to start shopping for a head-mounted display.

Re: Moving the Linux desktop to another reality

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Post by Zak » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 6:02 PM UTC

skrowl wrote: post #3

I really wish the "Yay, linux on the desktop" crowd would rally around ChromeOS. ChromeOS is literally what the "linux on the desktop" crowd has been wanted for decades now.

Heavily integrated with proprietary services is definitely not what the "linux on the desktop" crowd wants.

Re: Moving the Linux desktop to another reality

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Post by axaxs » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 6:05 PM UTC

skrowl wrote: post #3

I really wish the "Yay, linux on the desktop" crowd would rally around ChromeOS. ChromeOS is literally what the "linux on the desktop" crowd has been wanted for decades now.

What...why? I'm perfectly happy using linux on the desktop as my full time OS, as I have for more than a decade. I tried ChromeOS on chromebooks, and see nothing they offer me that I don't already have. Not to mention the privacy implications of using such an OS...

Re: Moving the Linux desktop to another reality

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Post by AdmiralAsshat » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 6:07 PM UTC

skrowl wrote: post #3

I really wish the "Yay, linux on the desktop" crowd would rally around ChromeOS. ChromeOS is literally what the "linux on the desktop" crowd has been wanted for decades now.

The vast majority of Chromebooks are completely useless without Google services. That's not exactly the "freedom" that the Linux community envisioned when they spoke about "The Year of Linux on the Desktop".

Re: Moving the Linux desktop to another reality

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Post by gmueckl » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 6:13 PM UTC

Zak wrote: post #4

I've been wanting the option of a VR desktop for a while now. Last I looked, it wasn't ready for prime time, and that's still my impression now. I find a small 16:9 screen pretty unacceptable for coding, and the market currently offers very limited options for anything taller in a laptop. I'm eager to see where this goes, and may need to start shopping for a head-mounted display.

The current generation of headsets is unsuited for showing large amounts of reasonably sized text. The display resolution is not there yet. If you map your desktop into a plane in VR space at the proper distance, your UI text shows up heavily aliased and barely readable due to the texture resampling that happens in that process. You need to increase resolution by another factor of two or three to make that actually convenient.

And then there is the issue with holding 3d pointing devices for prolonged amounts of time. This is taxing upper body strength if you do. The weight of thenheadset itself is also straining the neck muscles.

All of this taken together usually means that I want out of VR after about 2 hours. I barely have sessions that are longer.

Re: Moving the Linux desktop to another reality

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Post by choeger » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 6:13 PM UTC

That page crashes my Firefox mobile... Is that some kind of inside joke I don't get?

Re: Moving the Linux desktop to another reality

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Post by FigBug » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 6:19 PM UTC

skrowl wrote: post #3

I really wish the "Yay, linux on the desktop" crowd would rally around ChromeOS. ChromeOS is literally what the "linux on the desktop" crowd has been wanted for decades now.

Can you run a 'normal' Linux desktop application written in C or C++ on a Chromebook? Or is it just Android Apps and Web Apps?