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Parents Give Up Custody of Their Kids to Get Need-Based College Financial Aid

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Re: Parents Give Up Custody of Their Kids to Get Need-Based College Financial Aid

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It seems much fairer to universally fund zero or low cost tuition for public university (or trade school, etc) irrespective of wealth and people wanting the prestige or networking or whatever of private university institutions can then pay for that perceived added value.

Instead, we have squabbles over the scraps of funding over current access and the enforcement costs of trying to keep one group from "getting ahead" of another while wealth is being drained from most labor classes - even the upper middle classes where current college aids generally falls away completely.

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You can go to a community college for much less money and all kids aren't required to go to College to earn a good living. This is just silly.

This depends on the degree. My computer science degree had CS classes all the way from freshman year, and I think the pre-requisite graph required at least 3 years, so the standard ‘2 years of core classes for an associates and then 2 years of degree-specific courses’ wouldn’t have worked well for people like me and it would have taken me 5+ years of relatively light classes to finish college with a degree rather than 4.5 (130+ credits required for my CS degree)

Re: Parents Give Up Custody of Their Kids to Get Need-Based College Financial Aid

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You can go to a community college for much less money and all kids aren't required to go to College to earn a good living. This is just silly.

> You can go to a community college for much less money and all kids aren't required to go to College to earn a good living

Do you hear that sound? It is the sound of ten million wealthy upper middle class parents simultaneously recoiling in horror.

But seriously, parents that do these sorts of things have spent the last 20 years of their life ensuring their kids stay on the maximum-privilege track, and they're not going to quit now.

Re: Parents Give Up Custody of Their Kids to Get Need-Based College Financial Aid

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It seems much fairer to universally fund zero or low cost tuition for public university (or trade school, etc) irrespective of wealth and people wanting the prestige or networking or whatever of private university institutions can then pay for that perceived added value. Instead, we have squabbles over the scraps of funding over current access and the enforcement costs of trying to keep one group from "getting ahead"…

This is more or less how things worked where I lived in Italy, but I'm not totally convinced. There's still an 'opportunity cost' to going to college; for that and other reasons, it's still more an institution for middle/upper class kids. So they're taking advantage of a subsidized benefit more than those who aren't so well off, which is a bit perverse.

Also, while I think kids in US schools are treated way too much like paying customers, it seemed that in Italian schools students were seen in some cases as more of a burden to be dealt with.

I don't know what the best answer is. I'd happily take Italy's health care system, because everyone either uses it or has the potential to.

Re: Parents Give Up Custody of Their Kids to Get Need-Based College Financial Aid

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post #4

It seems much fairer to universally fund zero or low cost tuition for public university (or trade school, etc) irrespective of wealth and people wanting the prestige or networking or whatever of private university institutions can then pay for that perceived added value. Instead, we have squabbles over the scraps of funding over current access and the enforcement costs of trying to keep one group from "getting ahead"…

Its clear that federally backed student loans are one of the causes for increased tuition across the board. It seems that instead of pushing for debt cancellation it would be better to restrict any sort of federal assistance unless you're going to your in-state public school (likely the cheapest option in 99% of cases).

Re: Parents Give Up Custody of Their Kids to Get Need-Based College Financial Aid

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You can go to a community college for much less money and all kids aren't required to go to College to earn a good living. This is just silly.

> You can go to a community college for much less money and all kids aren't required to go to College to earn a good living Do you hear that sound? It is the sound of ten million wealthy upper middle class parents simultaneously recoiling in horror. But seriously, parents that do these sorts of things have spent the last 20 years of their life ensuring their kids stay on the maximum-privilege track, and they're not g…

> It is the sound of ten million wealthy upper middle class parents simultaneously recoiling in horror.

I went to a community college during high school, and this seems like the stigma is the reason why more people don't do dual enrollment.

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