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Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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I have a friend who has a small business doing, well I actually have no clue what the English word for it is, but its direct translation would be “Nature Nursing/Care taking”. A descriptive translation would be something like a wild nature gartner. I asked him and he said it would be little trouble to plant that many seedlings if you coordinates the efforts and planned for it. He also told me that these stunts, like…

> Because the hard part isn’t planting trees it’s making sure they survive the first five years. Which is interesting because the article already mentions a lack of water resources: >> as Ethiopians heeded Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed’s ambitious plan to roll back years of drought and scanty rains that the United Nations says has left some 3.8 million people in immediate need for assistance. Won't these new trees demand…

It's important to remember that the water used by trees is not necessarily zero sum. Trees shade the ground reducing evaporation; they contribute to soil structure increasing the soils ability to hold water; they break hard-pan layers allowing more water to seep into the ground during rain-fail events etc.

Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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Did anyone else find the 350M number implausible? They claim it happened in 12 hours. Unless they're talking about planting seeds, I find it hard to believe and take this story just as a political stunt. Ethiopia's population is 100M. Did 10% participate in this somehow, and each person plant 35 trees across the country? How would you even get that many trees to plant?

3.5 trees per person, not 35.

They were assuming 10% would participate, so that's why he had to bump it up 10x to accommodate.

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Now that is interesting. What are the challenges for making sure the trees survive the first five years? Do you have any knowledge you can help to elaborate?

My assumption is making sure they get enough water.

Perhaps also not get eaten by herbivores, not damaged by bigger animals, humans and vehicles and protected from insects.

Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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Did anyone else find the 350M number implausible? They claim it happened in 12 hours. Unless they're talking about planting seeds, I find it hard to believe and take this story just as a political stunt. Ethiopia's population is 100M. Did 10% participate in this somehow, and each person plant 35 trees across the country? How would you even get that many trees to plant?

I have a friend who works planting trees (small saplings). She says she targets 3000/day.

Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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> Because the hard part isn’t planting trees it’s making sure they survive the first five years. Which is interesting because the article already mentions a lack of water resources: >> as Ethiopians heeded Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed’s ambitious plan to roll back years of drought and scanty rains that the United Nations says has left some 3.8 million people in immediate need for assistance. Won't these new trees demand…

It's important to remember that the water used by trees is not necessarily zero sum. Trees shade the ground reducing evaporation; they contribute to soil structure increasing the soils ability to hold water; they break hard-pan layers allowing more water to seep into the ground during rain-fail events etc.

That's after they grow up though, right?

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But tell me again how the world's largest economy can't be bothered to do anything about climate change.

The US already has the cleanest of water and air. No need to do anything when you are leading the others bigly.

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"Be kind. Don't be snarky. Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive."

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> I wouldn't say it's that stable or that the rest of Africa is instable, especially compared to Europe. It's just that Europe industrialized earlier and got to reap rewards that can only come from most simple needs being met easily. Europe's industrialization as well as other Western countries heavily depended on the exploitation of third world countries in Asia and Africa, especially after WW2. Sweatshops and slave…

It took suicide-level conditions in places like Foxconn to get us our gadget at Not that I disagree with the rest of the post, but it's time the suicides at Foxconn story dies a fiery death. https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/07/10/apples-c... The juicy quote: At the time of that spate of suicides Foxconn had nearly 1 million workers in its plants. There were up to 14 suicides (it depends whose count you w…

The first time I heard about Foxconn was in a French newspaper, Libération, on the day we learned about Jobs' death. Steve Jobs was on pages 2-3, Foxconn on pages 4-5. I don't know if it was a crazy coincidence or they were just keeping the Foxconn story on hand to publish the next time they had anything else to say about Apple.

Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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> Because the hard part isn’t planting trees it’s making sure they survive the first five years. Which is interesting because the article already mentions a lack of water resources: >> as Ethiopians heeded Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed’s ambitious plan to roll back years of drought and scanty rains that the United Nations says has left some 3.8 million people in immediate need for assistance. Won't these new trees demand…

It's important to remember that the water used by trees is not necessarily zero sum. Trees shade the ground reducing evaporation; they contribute to soil structure increasing the soils ability to hold water; they break hard-pan layers allowing more water to seep into the ground during rain-fail events etc.

Check this out as well: forests attract rain! So if they can manage to keep a forest healthy it should help improve the local climate rain patterns and increase rainfall.[1]

1. Https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/article/59/4/341/346941

Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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This seems similar to (and maybe inspired by) efforts in Pakistan [1] and India [2] from the last few years. It would be interesting to read follow-ups to those efforts.

[1] https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/07/pakistan-s-billion-tr...

[2] https://www.upworthy.com/how-india-managed-to-plant-66-milli...

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I wouldn't say it's that stable or that the rest of Africa is instable, especially compared to Europe. It's just that Europe industrialized earlier and got to reap rewards that can only come from most simple needs being met easily. In general, the developing countries are mostly "behind the curve", meaning their economic growth mostly wasn't that much lower for most of history, but rather they started somewhat later,…

> I wouldn't say it's that stable or that the rest of Africa is instable, especially compared to Europe. It's just that Europe industrialized earlier and got to reap rewards that can only come from most simple needs being met easily. Europe's industrialization as well as other Western countries heavily depended on the exploitation of third world countries in Asia and Africa, especially after WW2. Sweatshops and slave…

> Europe's industrialization as well as other Western countries heavily depended on the exploitation of third world countries in Asia and Africa, especially after WW2.

Serveral landlocked European countries industrialized just fine without a single square foot of colonies, certainly no worse than first generation colonial powers.

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