Understanding Bihar’s Super 30 Phenomenon • Hacker News Board

Re: Understanding Bihar’s Super 30 Phenomenon

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Post by epapsiou » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 3:07 PM UTC

mkagenius wrote: post #10

epapsiou wrote: post #4

Was not that bad when I was growing up. Sure there was pressure to become engineer/doctor but IIT was not be-all end-all. There was always DCE, REC. Have things changed that much in last 20 years?

> but IIT was not be-all end-all. There was always DCE, REC. Its a way to use as filters at later stage of life. Job or marriage (see iitiimshaadi.com). Top 2% or top 10%.

Man I am glad I missed all this. And not even sure how this would have worked. Back in my days at IITB we had about 350 boys and 7 girls.

Re: Understanding Bihar’s Super 30 Phenomenon

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Post by mruts » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 3:14 PM UTC

tantalor wrote: post #2

> I know you have watched Super 30, the movie, so have I Wow, a lead that just begs the reader to stop.

I stopped after that. Is Super 30 supposed to be like the Avengers or something?

Re: Understanding Bihar’s Super 30 Phenomenon

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Post by Infernal » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 3:17 PM UTC

tantalor wrote: post #2

> I know you have watched Super 30, the movie, so have I Wow, a lead that just begs the reader to stop.

My experience exactly. “Hmm.... no I have not. Cmd-W.”

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Post by throwawaysea » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 3:23 PM UTC

tantalor wrote: post #2

> I know you have watched Super 30, the movie, so have I Wow, a lead that just begs the reader to stop.

It is written for an Indian audience, presumably. Would you expect all articles to be written generically or to your cultural tastes?

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Post by iamgopal » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 3:28 PM UTC

Entrance exam culture is biggest bullshit of the century India facing. On one hand college dropout are starting startups and disciplined intelligence thrown in to mindless clerical works, ultimately proving first idea works better than the second.

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Post by nilsocket » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 3:32 PM UTC

pm90 wrote: post #6

Unpopular opinion: this is not the way engineering should be taught, to ace a stupid test. I understand these are economically underprivileged kids and I wish them best, but I would really love it if someone followed up on where they end up after graduation. I’m hoping that as the economy develops further, the need to go to such extremes will diminish and folks can pursue their true calling.

Recently, Indian government have released new educational draft.

If everything goes as planned, it will be implemented by 2030.

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Post by throthrothis » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 3:34 PM UTC

IITians.. paid for by the Indian tax payer. But of no use to India, but US.

Re: Understanding Bihar’s Super 30 Phenomenon

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Post by nilsocket » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 3:37 PM UTC

iamshs wrote: post #7

pm90 wrote: post #6

Unpopular opinion: this is not the way engineering should be taught, to ace a stupid test. I understand these are economically underprivileged kids and I wish them best, but I would really love it if someone followed up on where they end up after graduation. I’m hoping that as the economy develops further, the need to go to such extremes will diminish and folks can pursue their true calling.

Agreed, that test eats up years of childhood. Considering that nearly 100K students give the exam, what criteria will work best to select 5K students for available seats?

Nearly 1 million, students try to crack IIT exam.

No.of seats available are 12-13k. That's nearly 1.3%.

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Post by nilsocket » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 3:41 PM UTC

Trailer link: https://youtu.be/QpvEWVVnICE

It has English subtitles.

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Post by gingabriska » Tue, Jul 30, 2019, 3:56 PM UTC

pm90 wrote: post #6

Unpopular opinion: this is not the way engineering should be taught, to ace a stupid test. I understand these are economically underprivileged kids and I wish them best, but I would really love it if someone followed up on where they end up after graduation. I’m hoping that as the economy develops further, the need to go to such extremes will diminish and folks can pursue their true calling.

Taxpayer money shouldn't be spent in funding such competition.

While education systems in west are focused towards collaboration, Indian education system makes them compete against each other like wild dogs.

When will India understand, it's not about competition but collaboration.

We can argue this system creates very few winners and a lot of people feel like losers in this system.

If they made them feel better, they can increase their net education output which would be far better than showcasing any specific rank or endorsing any specific brand like IIT.