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Tell HN: 2 weeks ago, I didnt know programming. I just wrote a web scraper.

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Re: Tell HN: 2 weeks ago, I didnt know programming. I just wrote a web scraper.

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Congrats, glad to hear you had success. I'm curious as to why you started with C#. Most people these days are steered the way of Python or Ruby it seems. Care you elaborate on your goals?

My cofounders were C# guys. One new benefit I thought of recently was that C# is similar to Java and thats what mobile apps are coded apart from Objective-C. Who says the MVP has to be a webapp? :) In anycase, my thinking was just get started first. Im probably going to dabble in Python or Ruby (probably Python) just to see what its like at some point. But for the time being, just getting my head down and writing cod…

Visual studio is one of the best IDEs out there, so not a bad choice.

Just learn ruby on rails as soon as possible so you aren't tainted by the horrible sample code of c#/java/php. Ay least get into codeigniter.

Re: Tell HN: 2 weeks ago, I didnt know programming. I just wrote a web scraper.

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post #12

I would venture to say that you knew programming, you just didn't know coding . Organizing a good program is not all that different from organizing a good business.

I want to say you're totally wrong and ignorant, but in case you have a good point, please explain. How is organizing a business like organizing a program, practically speaking?

Re: Tell HN: 2 weeks ago, I didnt know programming. I just wrote a web scraper.

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post #6

Your next step on the path to being a hacker is to share your work. Where can we see your "web scraper" in action?

I don't know where can I post it? Probably post it to my blog once I've commented it up. Heading out for dinner with the gf so check later! FYI, it looks like a thing of beauty to me but it probably looks like dogshit to the pros. lol.

Or just paste.ly

Re: Tell HN: 2 weeks ago, I didnt know programming. I just wrote a web scraper.

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post #5

Congrats. Programming is made out to be a hard thing and for people who don't think logically it is. But to a logically thinking person it's like the greatest game you'll ever discover.

Even for seemingly logical people, until you've done battle with a computer by programming, you probably don't realize how sloppy your thinking really is. Programming will make you more logical just as push-ups will make you more muscular.

Re: Tell HN: 2 weeks ago, I didnt know programming. I just wrote a web scraper.

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post #6

Your next step on the path to being a hacker is to share your work. Where can we see your "web scraper" in action?

I don't know where can I post it? Probably post it to my blog once I've commented it up. Heading out for dinner with the gf so check later! FYI, it looks like a thing of beauty to me but it probably looks like dogshit to the pros. lol.

You will learn a great deal by posting your work for others to see. At first it will feel uncomfortable. You will be concerned that others will mock your work (and they might). But, by the 3rd or 4th time you post your work you will start to feel comfortable with it. The important point is that others will benefit from your experience. Karma.

Re: Tell HN: 2 weeks ago, I didnt know programming. I just wrote a web scraper.

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post #20

> To all business MBA guys learning to code: you can do it! just get started!! No, all of you can't. But it's not a bad idea to try and see if you think you'd like it! I am reminded of the half-joking book title: "Learn to Program in 21 Years".

I agree: most of you MBA guys will suck, fail and never figure it out. Some of you will. Everyone should try though.

Re: Tell HN: 2 weeks ago, I didnt know programming. I just wrote a web scraper.

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post #23
post #12

I would venture to say that you knew programming, you just didn't know coding . Organizing a good program is not all that different from organizing a good business.

I want to say you're totally wrong and ignorant, but in case you have a good point, please explain. How is organizing a business like organizing a program, practically speaking?

I was trying to keep my comment succinct, but what I mean is that at the fundamental level, programming is problem solving, and so is running a business. The ins and outs of particular businesses and particular programming languages or computing platforms may vary, but if you're skilled at problem solving (and it is a skill) then that skill is equally applicable in both arenas.

Re: Tell HN: 2 weeks ago, I didnt know programming. I just wrote a web scraper.

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post #20

> To all business MBA guys learning to code: you can do it! just get started!! No, all of you can't. But it's not a bad idea to try and see if you think you'd like it! I am reminded of the half-joking book title: "Learn to Program in 21 Years".

"Teach Yourself Programming in Ten Years"

http://norvig.com/21-days.html

Re: Tell HN: 2 weeks ago, I didnt know programming. I just wrote a web scraper.

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Now you should open source it ;) haha just kidding. What concerns me most is - why did you have to do this? Even with your MBA super powers you weren't able to convince a real programmer that your idea was worth 2% of the whole shebang for translating it into binary? I'm afraid that if more MBA types take to implementing their own ideas there will be no more "garbage" filter. But this will be an opportunity for others to improve, hack and thwart the implementation into something "better".
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