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Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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This is incredible!

I can live workout wireless charging for the moment.

An ip rating would be important to me though (lightly resistant to rain/dust). I imagine that's incredibly hard to design with replaceable batteries.

I'll let the reviewers take a gander at the camera and quality and I might give this a go.

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

#243

I saw a demo of the test board on video and the touch interface latency was very high. is it the hardware or the software? has it improved? It was quite frustratingly slow by the looks of it.

That was a driver issue IIRC and has since been solved. At least here [1] it looks okay to me. Not great, but okay.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9X53UGdvX8

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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I'd go even a step further: Since they open-sourced all their work, maybe other vendors can pick up / fork where they left off and we may actually have more than one Linux phone in the future! Two years ago that seemed like wishful thinking to me, but I am very excited about how far Purism got in an even shorter timespan.

Like PinePhone? They're pushing for a ~$200 phone in Q3 this year, same as Purism. The difference is that Pine64 doesn't seem to be putting nearly as many resources into development, just enough to get functioning hardware out there and then leaving it up to the community to build the ecosystem. It's an exciting time! While I'm waiting, I'm setting up my own PBX to hopefully take control of my phone service, and I'm…

Having set up a PBX before, what does it give you that allows you to "take control"? You've still got to connect to some phone provider. It's basically just a highly-configurable alternative.

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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Linux kernel is GPL. Now try to get the right version sold with an Android phone.

Semi-related, but apparently Win10 WSL now includes the Linux kernel. Being as that's GPL, it seems strange the GPL license isn't somehow "virally" infecting windows, making other things OSS.

They have released the source for their fork: https://github.com/microsoft/WSL2-Linux-Kernel.

Linux specifically does not use the GPLv3 for exactly this reason. rms et al. complained about "tivoization", which came from tivo shipping boxes that contained the code but were locked down. Linus didn't really care as much, or at least not enough to re-license. He didn't like the restriction, and new that such a provision would prevent exactly what MS is now doing: allowing more freedom for the users.

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

#246
Whats the software selection going to be like for this phone?

I bought an Ubuntu phone, and while the phone was nice enough, the lack of apps made it a bit crap. No Whatsapp (I was happy enough using telegram, but my friends were not). The maps application was web based, so didn't launch unless you had internet connection.

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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GNOME and Linux are under the GPL. So are phosh (Purism's shell), Chatty (their messaging app) and probably a lot of other components. So you can't make a closed fork.

Linux kernel is GPL. Now try to get the right version sold with an Android phone.

It's usually quite easy, they're often on Github though some companies host them themselves. There are a few companies (looking at you Lenovo) who release partial/non-working sources but most vendors do comply with the GPL.

https://github.com/nokia-dev/android_device_nokia_sdm660-com...

https://github.com/OnePlusOSS/android_kernel_oneplus_sdm845

https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource

https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/ZenFone/ZS630KL/ASUS_I01W...

https://android.googlesource.com/kernel/msm/+/android-9.0.0_...

https://consumer.huawei.com/en/opensource/

etc.

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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I wouldn't pre-order something like this because I don't yet know if it will be reliable. I see the value in what they are offering but it isn't battle tested yet. I don't want to relive the early smartphone days where the phone crashes when I'm trying to answer a phone call.

I think this first model is for enthusiasts who can afford it and want to fund the development. It won't be perfect yet. If you think about it as a donation it makes a lot more sense.

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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Yes, who complain that the software might not be that great, but who also want freedom, your option would be to buy without expectations as a way of donating to the project or to simply donate money directly to the project. That's the great thing about open source! People form groups and spend their own time/resources to build what they want instead of waiting around for the corporate big brother to build it.

Purism is a for-profit corporation. You aren't donating - any more than you're "donating" to Comcast when you pay your cable bill.

Donation, no. But it’s a vote. You’re paying to vote for the type of “freedom” many of us here want to see.

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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So I checked, and there are no "official" current LineageOS builds for any Nokia phones (unless I'm missing something on https://download.lineageos.org ) There don't seem to be any builds anywhere for the 4.1 (is it an uncommon phone?) For argument's sake, let's say you bought the 6.1, now your option is to download an "unofficial" ROM from some pseudo-anonymous person with an anime avatar from XDA, hosted on whateve…

Similarly, I've pretty much given up on LineageOS ever getting the Nexus 5X to the 16.0 version. Their list of supported phones looks decent, but when you realize they can't keep even those phones up to date the project starts to look like a failure. I'm hoping to find an alternative for friends and family who still have the 5X - it's been dropped from Google's security updates for a while, because their support ends…

Maybe try Ubuntu phone? [1] It is an officially supported device of UBports.

[1] https://ubports.com/de_DE/devices/promoted-devices

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