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Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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Post by checkyoursudo »

cannonedhamster wrote: post #205
giaour wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

B corps are allowed to prioritize specific values enumerated in their corporate charter, even at the expense financial gains. Regular corporations have a fiduciary duty to their shareholders, which in recent decades has been interpreted as requiring companies to maximize short-term shareholder value

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/fiduciary-responsibi... There is no fiduciary requirement to put profits above all else. In fact there is no fiduciary duty to make profits, just basically to do what's best for the company. There is no short term time frame listed. If there is a requirement to make profits it's not because it's a responsibility. Shareholders may want it but no one gets punished if a bad decisi…

It's almost as if the more and more you compensate your c-suite execs with your own shares, the more you would expect to see them chasing short-term profits regardless of the degradation of firm longevity...

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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Post by seba_dos1 »

messo wrote: post #224
bufferoverflow wrote: post #102

You lost me at the resolution. 720p is ridiculous in 2019. Also 32GB of internal storage is extremely restricting (even with the SD card, apps like to install on the main storage).

I have put my root folder on a 32GB M.2 in my X220 and that has been more than enough storage for all of the different distros I have run the last 5 years. I expect to replace my current laptop with the Librem 5 as my daily driver. Having a real linux-distro on my phone is a dream come true, especially when I can dock it with my monitor at home and use it as a regular laptop.

Same here. I've been occasionally hitting 32GB with my / when I let my system grow really messy, but a quick look at big and unused packages was enough to clean it up. For a GNU/Linux system, 32GB is a lot.

It would still be nice to have more for added comfort, but it's not like it's a big deal.

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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Post by codedokode »

But it is pretty expensive. There are Chinese phones with 4 cores, similar amount of memory and same screen size that are 4 times cheaper. Would not it be better to take any of them and replace the firmware instead of making their own platform?

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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Post by nsajko »

codedokode wrote: post #233

But it is pretty expensive. There are Chinese phones with 4 cores, similar amount of memory and same screen size that are 4 times cheaper. Would not it be better to take any of them and replace the firmware instead of making their own platform?

Hardware kill switches were designed into the phones.

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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Post by codedokode »

flukus wrote: post #202
mpnordland wrote: post #25

So for me, this is roughly what I want in a phone. But the thing is, I bought a phone over two years ago, with better specs for $100 less. That same phone today is priced at $200-$300. The way I see it the real value add for this phone is the software, and this whole mainline Linux, FOSS, run whatever you want approach is very attractive to me. But is it worth $700? Is it worth $700 when my current phone is in great…

Assuming it's not an iphone, the phone you bought will likely be getting few/no more security updates and is obsolete, that's why it's so cheap now and in part why it was so cheap then. As you said, the value add here is in running mainline linux and that means your phone really will be usable for several years. Some of the other big pluses over android are ease of development, no java bloatware, more FOSS and no spy…

I wouldn't call Java a bloatware. Native Java apps work without any lags on my $150 phone.

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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Post by megous »

allana wrote: post #37
redwards510 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't find the info for the price, but I remember seeing it before and it was very low, like $200, which would make this a very exciting entry into the notAndroidOrIOS market. The Librem 5 was cool at first, until they started delaying it indefinitely and the price is too high for mass adoption. By having a very low price on the Pinephone they are courting a lot more tinkerers to get one and help develop the OS ver…

The Allwinner A64 platform has numerous developers working on it compared to the iMX8, which has really fleshed out fully featured hardware support over the last few years. Running most Linux distros should be a breeze on the Pinephone!

That's a bit of an overstatement. It has some interested and active developers, but support is far from fleshed out, especially for the poratble device use.

There are lots of patches floating around, that you can apply to the mainline linux tree, to get CPU DVFS, thermal management, to improve I2S support, etc. Suspend to RAM is nowhere to be seen, leaving you with always ON SoC, which will drain the battery in half a day doing nothing.

It's all fixable, but let's not pretend A64 has fully fleshed out HW support in the mainline Linux kernel.

OTOH, there's a great potential, because Quectel EC25 broadband module also runs Linux and has some potential for being hackable:

https://projects.osmocom.org/projects/quectel-modems/wiki

So there's definitely a lot of fun to be had with the future PinePhone. You'll be able to log in to your broadband module and perhaps modify it:

https://projects.osmocom.org/projects/quectel-modems/wiki/EC...

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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Post by CogitoCogito »

gpjanik wrote: post #238

In the "about" (our story) section there's some bs and a picture of a girl with blurred city background, file titled: https://puri.sm/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/beautiful-beauty-... I mean... How can people still do this in 2019

> In the "about" (our story) section there's some bs and a picture of a girl with blurred city background, file titled:

> https://puri.sm/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/beautiful-beauty-....

> I mean... How can people still do this in 2019

What is the main thing you take issue with? The filename? The fact that the picture is not directly related to the project? The fact that the woman in the picture is attractive?

Re: Librem 5 Smartphone Final Specs

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Post by cannonedhamster »

checkyoursudo wrote: post #231
cannonedhamster wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/fiduciary-responsibi... There is no fiduciary requirement to put profits above all else. In fact there is no fiduciary duty to make profits, just basically to do what's best for the company. There is no short term time frame listed. If there is a requirement to make profits it's not because it's a responsibility. Shareholders may want it but no one gets punished if a bad decisi…

It's almost as if the more and more you compensate your c-suite execs with your own shares, the more you would expect to see them chasing short-term profits regardless of the degradation of firm longevity...

Yes this is a common refrain.

You encourage what you measure against

Knowing what to measure against is harder the higher you go up the corporate ladder.

Incentives get skewed towards short term employees and short term rewards. Companies treating their employees as resources has only hurt loyalty. No one starts at a company in the US anymore unless they're average or below workers. The whole idea of companies not being willing to pay existing employees what they would pay a new hire is stupid too. You're willing to pay more for someone you're going to have to train and is a literal risk, versus a known commodity with known output. Generally you pay more for stability on the market not less.

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