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Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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I wish them luck. I'm a sort of history buff and Ethiopia has an amazing history. It's been a state (in various forms and with different names) for more than 2000 years, in a part of the world where such stability has been scarce. It has its own ancient alphabet. It was the only country in Africa to resist the Scramble for Africa and was only occupied by Italy for less than 10 years (after putting the Italian Army to…

Have you by any chance read the book "Dictatorland" by Paul Kenyon? If you haven't, you'll love it. Anyways, another incredible history if Eritrea, and their common history with Ethiopia is pretty crazy too. One of those countries the world really knows nothing about...

Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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Not to discourage, but even reforesting entire land that could possibly be covered in forest will not arrest climate change noticeably. The reason is because forest do not change CO2 levels noticeably, in the long run. The reason is because there is roughly constant amount of carbon in Earths biomass. Planting treas only increases the amonut of biomass by a little bit but has no lasting effect of scrubbing CO2 from a…

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jul/04/planting...

ETH Zürich seems to disagree with that statement.

Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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Not to discourage, but even reforesting entire land that could possibly be covered in forest will not arrest climate change noticeably. The reason is because forest do not change CO2 levels noticeably, in the long run. The reason is because there is roughly constant amount of carbon in Earths biomass. Planting treas only increases the amonut of biomass by a little bit but has no lasting effect of scrubbing CO2 from a…

Timber buildings, furniture are possible targets for medium term sequestration of co2 via timber.

More offbeat approaches might include modern giant pyramids built of timber, perhaps in the Australian outback. As long as they could be secured from fire and decay.

Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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I wish them luck. I'm a sort of history buff and Ethiopia has an amazing history. It's been a state (in various forms and with different names) for more than 2000 years, in a part of the world where such stability has been scarce. It has its own ancient alphabet. It was the only country in Africa to resist the Scramble for Africa and was only occupied by Italy for less than 10 years (after putting the Italian Army to…

I wouldn't say it's that stable or that the rest of Africa is instable, especially compared to Europe. It's just that Europe industrialized earlier and got to reap rewards that can only come from most simple needs being met easily.

In general, the developing countries are mostly "behind the curve", meaning their economic growth mostly wasn't that much lower for most of history, but rather they started somewhat later, often because they needed the technology developed in the west (modern agriculture mostly) to start increasing their population density. As far as I understand it, Africa is suitable for both very primitive and very advanced agriculture, but not much "in between" and so they got stuck with hunting/gathering and subsistence farming. They also didn't have access to proper domestic animals before Europe industrialized, though they had better animals than the South Americans, apparently. Neither a LLama nor a zebra can pull a plow.

Many countries in Africa were jumpstarted by colonization, and the colonists didn't have any interest in making that growth sustainable or giving the natives the tools to sustain that growth on their own. That's why white African farmers can say the black Africans can't manage huge farms for sh. Well, the white farmers didn't teach it to them and prevented them from learning it on their own...

Ethiopia is probably slightly different.

Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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Not to discourage, but even reforesting entire land that could possibly be covered in forest will not arrest climate change noticeably. The reason is because forest do not change CO2 levels noticeably, in the long run. The reason is because there is roughly constant amount of carbon in Earths biomass. Planting treas only increases the amonut of biomass by a little bit but has no lasting effect of scrubbing CO2 from a…

I think this initiative was aimed at soil erosion and moisture retention...

Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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Not to discourage, but even reforesting entire land that could possibly be covered in forest will not arrest climate change noticeably. The reason is because forest do not change CO2 levels noticeably, in the long run. The reason is because there is roughly constant amount of carbon in Earths biomass. Planting treas only increases the amonut of biomass by a little bit but has no lasting effect of scrubbing CO2 from a…

Timber buildings, furniture are possible targets for medium term sequestration of co2 via timber. More offbeat approaches might include modern giant pyramids built of timber, perhaps in the Australian outback. As long as they could be secured from fire and decay.

Maybe it's easier to let them rot in place like it worked in the rainforests for millions of years?

Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Timber buildings, furniture are possible targets for medium term sequestration of co2 via timber. More offbeat approaches might include modern giant pyramids built of timber, perhaps in the Australian outback. As long as they could be secured from fire and decay.

Maybe it's easier to let them rot in place like it worked in the rainforests for millions of years?

Rotting releases their co2.

All good when things are in balance - but they're not.

To sequester the c02, you need to prevent rot.

Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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Not to discourage, but even reforesting entire land that could possibly be covered in forest will not arrest climate change noticeably. The reason is because forest do not change CO2 levels noticeably, in the long run. The reason is because there is roughly constant amount of carbon in Earths biomass. Planting treas only increases the amonut of biomass by a little bit but has no lasting effect of scrubbing CO2 from a…

Carbon sequestration via wood burial[1]

[1] https://cbmjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1750-0...

Re: Ethiopia Plants 350M Trees in One Day to Combat Drought and Climate Change

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Not to discourage, but even reforesting entire land that could possibly be covered in forest will not arrest climate change noticeably. The reason is because forest do not change CO2 levels noticeably, in the long run. The reason is because there is roughly constant amount of carbon in Earths biomass. Planting treas only increases the amonut of biomass by a little bit but has no lasting effect of scrubbing CO2 from a…

Letting trees grow and sucking up co2, and then making them into charcoal/biochar, putting that into the soil is one simple way to do it.

Even if not done, still think a living forest has to be much better than a plain or desert.

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