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Capital One Says Breach Hit 100M Individuals in U.S

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Re: Capital One Says Breach Hit 100M Individuals in U.S

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This spooked me. I thought I recognized the name, and then I remembered she had recently contacted me out of the blue on meetup.com to ask if I was interested in doing some urban exploration. I said yes, but we never got around to picking a day. Now I'm kind of glad we didn't!

It's a very small world in these circles. Seems everyone is only a few degrees separate.

Re: Capital One Says Breach Hit 100M Individuals in U.S

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Miss the LevelMoney folks... Yeah AWS can’t protect you against a misconfigured environment

Are there AWS experts who can do some sort of quick audit or "sanity check" of an environment's configurations? AWS almost makes it too easy for someone who only sort of knows what they're doing (like me) to get things up and running.

We run this tool every now and again which has helped me in the past. Not sure how it compares to Cloud Custodian though.

https://github.com/toniblyx/prowler

Re: Capital One Says Breach Hit 100M Individuals in U.S

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Looks well qualified to run the coding bootcamp in her prison.

Only facing up to 5 years apparently. I wonder if that will change over time. Considering her hack is worse than what Aaron Swartz hacked (not PII) I cant believe she only gets 5 years.

> worse than what Aaron Swartz hacked (not PII)

Violation of copyright would appear to be a significantly worse offense according to present US law.

Re: Capital One Says Breach Hit 100M Individuals in U.S

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FYI, getting a $125 check from Equifax is contingent on most of the people that are eligible to get one not actually requesting it. It'll probably be less

Yeah, there's only $31M allocated for those payouts :/

Because most people won't qualify to get the payout. It's just restitution for people who responded to the news of the breach by paying for credit-monitoring services. If you didn't do that, you don't get paid. You just get free credit-monitoring service.

Re: Capital One Says Breach Hit 100M Individuals in U.S

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I think the point is: unless the hacker is already aware of how to sell PII of this nature and how to move "good money" then a hack like this is for naught. Reading the mistakes made in the hack itself makes me wonder if black markets and money laundering are a skill they posses.

I think you could just sign up on one of the onion drug/fraud markets for ~$500 vendor deposit and put up a listing for those profiles at like $5-10 a pop. If you were lazy you could just hit up an existing vendor and ask them to sell your data in batches. I’m not saying this would be a good idea, but it certainly wouldn’t be very difficult.

Then Capital One will find out immediately because banks hire firms to watch darknet markets. JP Morgan discovered a breach when they found data being sold on one of those forums and that was years ago.

This will just intensely increase the scrutiny of where the data came from and they'd likely be caught anyway, unless they did a very clean job security-wise. Which very few people seem to be able to do when the feds really want you.

Moving to Russia or another country without extradition treaties would probably be a good first step of that plan.

Re: Capital One Says Breach Hit 100M Individuals in U.S

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Actually looks like she worked for Amazon on S3. So there might have been some insider knowledge. From the complaint below, and googling her name you can find her resume I won't link it here, but here's a screenshot of a snippet: https://i.imgur.com/NezWVKw.png

I know that reading the actual linked content on HN is verboten, but the Bloomberg story says "Thompson was previously an Amazon Web Services employee. She last worked at Amazon in 2016, spokesman Grant Milne said. The breach described by Capitol One didn’t require insider knowledge, he said."

“Didn’t require” is a very precise way of stating a truth about the vulnerability that was exploited, while neither confirming nor denying whether her role at Amazon was in some way responsible for her discovering the vulnerability.

(If I could query all AWS permissions for publicly exploitable permissions, that would comply, for example.)

Re: Capital One Says Breach Hit 100M Individuals in U.S

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Only facing up to 5 years apparently. I wonder if that will change over time. Considering her hack is worse than what Aaron Swartz hacked (not PII) I cant believe she only gets 5 years.

> worse than what Aaron Swartz hacked (not PII) Violation of copyright would appear to be a significantly worse offense according to present US law.

IANAL, but I believe part of the issue is that breaching a hundred million records is one data breach, but exfiltrating a few thousand journals is one infringement per journal.

In point of fact, the prosecutor on Swartz case (Stephen Heymann) had previous authored an article describing how the Internet age allowed crime to scale, enabling hackers to commit thousands of criminal acts per second. It's my personal belief that Heymann wanted to use Swartz' case as a validation of this belief.

(Source: The Idealist: Aaron Swartz and the Rise of Free Culture on the Internet, ISBN 978-1476767727)

Re: Capital One Says Breach Hit 100M Individuals in U.S

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> hacked into a cloud-computing company server, federal prosecutors in Seattle said > the cloud-computing company, on whose servers Capital One rented space, wasn’t identified in court papers. Does this feel like it was just an S3 bucket with permissions set incorrectly? I've come across sensitive documents in S3 buckets with a well crafted google search.

Misconfigured WAF - see my comment elsewhere here. Correction: according to the complaint, the defendant is alleged to have assumed an IAM role in the context of Capital One's account whose policy provided access to the S3 bucket in question. So it wasn't that the S3 bucket was public, but rather, that there was some vulnerability she took advantage of by which she obtained indirect credentials to it. (Complaint, pag…

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Re: Capital One Says Breach Hit 100M Individuals in U.S

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They should not be letting egress traffic through to a Tor node.

Is there enough space in an S3 bucket access policy to include DENY rules for every known Tor IP address?

Looks to me that it should rather be using an IP white list. It's not like their systems would need access to these documents from an dynamic IP dial up connection.

Re: Capital One Says Breach Hit 100M Individuals in U.S

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"there are a lot of safeguards that these banks use to make sure that any data that touches the shared server persistent storage is encrypted. And when I say safeguards, I mean automation to make sure that this sort of scenario shouldn't ever happen." ROTFLMAO....you have clearly never worked for a bank, no offense mate. Capital left this shit in plain text on an S3 bucket, I guarantee you

If you took ten seconds to look at the posted source note above, you would see Cloud Custodian has a policy to enforce bucket encryption.

And if you knew anything of what you were talking about, you would see how easy it is for an engineer to make a mistake and there is 0 auditing or oversight. Also, if YOU actually took 10 seconds, you would see all the data was un-encrypted and in plain text. So where is all this "safety" the dude is speaking of? Cloud Custodian does shit when implemented incorrectly -and that's my point. You think banks are making all this effort, but in reality, the security team is completely understaffed, often not listened to, and in the end - we find this stuff happening all the time.

There, I gave you more than 10 seconds. Trying keeping up.

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