So its possible that modern races of humans are actually our archaic ancestors?
Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds
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Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lions and tigers can interbreed. Ligers and tigons are fertile: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE8Z5Es-M0E
Are lions and tigers both cats in the same way Border Collies and German Shorthair Pointers are both dogs? Or are there more significant differences?
I would say your "dogs" example still represent the same spieces but different race. Those dogs can breed normal offsprings.
Lions/tigers cannot.
Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are lions and tigers both cats in the same way Border Collies and German Shorthair Pointers are both dogs? Or are there more significant differences?
I would say your "dogs" example still represent the same spieces but different race. Those dogs can breed normal offsprings. Lions/tigers cannot.
Oh yes, now I’ve read the Wikipedia articles, it seems Ligers and Tigons tend toward weak offspring prone to cancer.
Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds
#44Suppose we found enough DNA to recreate these hominins. Would they be citizens or zoo animals? Either way, what if they want to interbreed? Do we determine this based on looks? What if the attraction is unidirectional?
They were closer to homo sapiens than other great apes, and some people already argue that some great apes should be granted personhood:
Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds
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Put that on your college application and you'll get a free ride so they can meet their diversity quota.
The opposite is true - people with Neanderthal ancestry require higher grades for acceptance than those without.
Yes. Caucasians and Asians have the highest amount of Neanderthal genes.
Isn't it funny how in English, Neanderthal is an insult?
Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds
#46If we interbred with them, how are they actually species? It seems more to me you're talking more about racial or breed differences akin to breeds of dogs if two species actually successfuly had viable offspring in the wild.
Such categories are only an approximation of reality to help with classification. There is stuff like ring species [1] for example or species complex [2]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_species [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_complex
Very helpful links, I didn't know the term ring species
Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lions and tigers can interbreed. Ligers and tigons are fertile: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE8Z5Es-M0E
Are lions and tigers both cats in the same way Border Collies and German Shorthair Pointers are both dogs? Or are there more significant differences?
That depends entirely on what “the same way” means. Lions’ and tigers’ last common ancestor was well over a million years ago. Pathera’s last common ancestor was 6.6mya. European derived dogs probably had a common ancestor within the last thousand years, definitely the last five thousand. Dogs are fully interfertile, Panthera are mostly interfertile, more than horses, zebras and donkeys are, for example. It might be possible to get zebra ancestry into donkeys’ or lions’ gene pools but there’s no might about lions and tigers. It could be done, and similarly divergent Felidae have mostly domestic cat breeds with substantial non housecat ancestry, like Bengals. Tigers’ and lions’ behaviour and morphology are very different but the same could be said for greyhounds and bloodhounds, or Great Danes and Chihuahuas. You can’t really answer the question without specifying how you’re comparing them.
Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lions and tigers can interbreed. Ligers and tigons are fertile: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE8Z5Es-M0E
Are lions and tigers both cats in the same way Border Collies and German Shorthair Pointers are both dogs? Or are there more significant differences?
> Or are there more significant differences?
They're completely different cats. Panthera leo and Panthera tigris split about 7MYA (est.).
Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds
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Some of these species are thought to be smarter than us, so you better be careful or you will end up the specimen in the zoo.
No, they're not. The only 'evidence' for this is cranial size. Neanderthals had larger brain sizes than modern humans. Now let's look at all the other evidence. Neanderthals existed longer than the entire existence of humans. And in that time they never managed to get out of the stone age. Stone age sounds nicer than it is. Beat two rocks together, sharp stuff falls off, use it => you're in the stone age. Contrary to…
The earliest homo sapien skeletons were found in Morocco and are dated almost 300,000 years old. So our species was around for hundreds of thousands of years and we didn’t do much more than the Neanderthals. So Neanderthals not demonstrating culture doesn’t mean much, since our own species also went a long time without demonstrating culture. Indeed, it is an interesting question , what were we using these enormous brains for?
Re: Humans Interbred with Four Extinct Hominin Species, Research Finds
#50So its possible that modern races of humans are actually our archaic ancestors?
No, what most people refer to as races of humans are a set of traits that are surprisingly shared across populations, albeit in different quantities.
The traits that we’ve inherited from our archaic ancestors aren’t really the types of traits people use a distinguishing features between populations.