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India tiger census shows rapid population growth

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Re: India tiger census shows rapid population growth

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Post by srean »

jimmaswell wrote: post #60
ceejayoz wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tiger to be afraid of is the one stealthily stalking you because it's starving and looking for prey it doesn't usually go after. One with a fresh kill isn't going to be very interested in you unless you come too close to it or its cubs.

I hear one way to tell you're being stalked by a predator is a sudden eerie silence, where all the birds etc. stop making noises.

Are you sure. From my father and grandfather who have had to put down wild animals in the Indian jungle, I have heard the otherway round. Monkeys, dears and birds give characteristic warning calls when they see a tiger on the hunt.

Re: India tiger census shows rapid population growth

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Post by ignoramous »

sn41 wrote: post #89
ignoramous wrote: post #75

Astonishing. Still a long way to go, though. > Mr Modi said the results of this tiger census would make "every Indian happy". This isn't an exaggeration: Tigers are interwoven in to the Indian (and Bangladeshi?) psyche [0] owing mostly to the overwhelming guilt of almost singlehandedly causing extinction of these beasts. As the article states, in the 20th Century over 80,000 Tigers were killed in undivided India-- Th…

There is a slight insinuation in your comment that it was ignorant villagers who killed off large number of tigers due to population pressures. Superstition and a reaction against man-eating tigers were not the cause of the near extinction. They were intentionally hunted down by the British and the local Maharajas for "sport". Tigers were hunted mostly during the British era. https://blog.nationalgeographic.org/2014/…

> insinuation in your comment that it was ignorant villagers who killed

I'm sorry but I don't see which sentence makes you think that: esp the ignorant villagers part.

> hunted down by the British and the local Maharajas for "sport"

The article too points this out. And at the Raj Mahals (Palaces of the Kings) of the Mysore State there was indeed a display of photographs, pictures of Tiger kills by not just the Rajas but also by visiting dignitaries.

Additionally, it wasn't uncommon to have Tigers killed, back then, due to danger to human lives. And the Tiger hunters were celebrated heroes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Corbett#Hunting_man-eating...

Re: India tiger census shows rapid population growth

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Post by srean »

adi18g wrote: post #91
DeonPenny wrote: post #70

kind of happy but also now scared to go to india. I saw a video of a guy on a motorcycle almost get mauled by one.

Yeah..that's why we ride on elephants

Everyday ? You live in rough country. In Bangalore, we ride on elephants only for the first day of work. The local tigers here dont care much for engineers with experience.

Re: India tiger census shows rapid population growth

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Post by sidibe »

bozoUser wrote: post #38

This is such a welcome news and a great start to the week! But with the recent news about a tigress beaten to death in India and after coming across some videos in the social media on the tiger encounters with humans, I hope the Indian govt. also works on bolstering education and awareness campaigns across the rural population on the man vs animal encounters and also works towards preserving the forests where these e…

I don't know if any amount of "awareness" is going to stop the people who live near them from revenge killings of man-eaters. Hard to blame them honestly.

Tiger population growth means more people live next to them. And on the internet we'll argue that it's because there's too many people but they'll expand into whatever territory they're ceded and someone is always going to have to live near them.

Re: India tiger census shows rapid population growth

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Post by distant_hat »

While this news is good, it should be taken into consideration that without increases in habitat area, this will lead to higher tiger-human and tiger-tiger conflict. There is rising cases of tiger-human conflicts already and I hope this doesn't lead to a backlash.

Re: India tiger census shows rapid population growth

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Post by provolone »

distant_hat wrote: post #96

While this news is good, it should be taken into consideration that without increases in habitat area, this will lead to higher tiger-human and tiger-tiger conflict. There is rising cases of tiger-human conflicts already and I hope this doesn't lead to a backlash.

Notice how these wildlife advocates don't have lobbying offices in these areas. Their property is safe.

Elephants are not destroying their crops/orchards. Rhinos are not smashing their cars. Leopards are not eating their pets, livestock, neighbors or family members.

https://www.beefmagazine.com/pasture-range/wolves-economic-b... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/110923... https://www.cnn.com/2012/11/03/world/asia/nepal-leopard-deat... https://thehimalayantimes.com/nepal/one-dead-in-rhino-attack... https://www.earthtouchnews.com/conservation/human-impact/rhi...

Re: India tiger census shows rapid population growth

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Post by pkphilip »

srikbs8095 wrote: post #23

Forgive me for being the party-pooper here. I might be going off on a tangent, but this govt has a history of cooking up numbers. Be it GDP, be it out-of-deficit spending or be it the output of the informal economy. Something that's coming from PMO, I'd be super skeptical. Pardon me for pointing out their carelessness in handling water crisis and climate change, but sure, they focussed on tiger population growth. Def…

This was exactly my thought as well. This government has gone to extraordinary lengths to open up forests to industries with very little protection for the environment. They have also denied the rights of indigenous tribals to the lands.

Source: https://theprint.in/opinion/environment-is-the-most-under-re...

How can the tiger population increase when forest cover has dropped drastically?

Fact is, the environment protection under Modi has been a disaster. Source: https://www.downtoearth.org.in/coverage/india/report-card-en...

Re: India tiger census shows rapid population growth

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Post by lota-putty » 

    Modi said the tiger population had risen from 2,226 in "2014" to 2,967 in "2018".
Highlighting their(NDA/BJP) Govt at centre has positive effect on Tiger conservation.

    big cats breed and live in only about 10% of India's total potential tiger habitat of 300,000 sq.km
Even if we cut back a tiger's territory size from 450sq.km to 100sq.km, 3,000 Tigers at this time covers all the potential tiger reserves.

Now should we poke into actual healthy tiger reserves? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_reserves_of_India#Goals https://www.letsstudytogether.co/complete-list-of-tiger-rese...

India added a billion people since 1950 to its population. Should it be called a successes of erstwhile Govts?

Healthy sustainable growth without putting any life in ecosystem under threat is desired. India can sustain a healthy happy human population of 330 million without degrading natural wealth of the nation.

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