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Uber Lays Off 400

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Re: Uber Lays Off 400

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https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=Uber_Technolog...

> Marketing Manager > Average: $67,935 And that's for a manager. 40k may be a little low, perhaps they're making 50 or 55, but it's not unreasonable for a normal marketing job.

Marketing manager is often an individual contributor role. "I am managing our content." "I am managing our product marketing material."

Re: Uber Lays Off 400

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=Uber_Technolog...

> Marketing Manager > Average: $67,935 And that's for a manager. 40k may be a little low, perhaps they're making 50 or 55, but it's not unreasonable for a normal marketing job.

Marketing Manager is not a manager of people but rather an IC role. It is the same as how Account Executive is not an executive in the organizational decision-making sense.

Re: Uber Lays Off 400

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Have you got the right number of zeroes there? Three billion per year?

Yep - $3.2b is the headline cost of sales and marketing in 2018. In 2019 that number as of Q1 has shot up to a $4b+ run rate: https://investor.uber.com/news-events/news/press-release-det... - - Even more interesting in that number. The accounting department came up with a nice way to mask their "unprofitable rides" and call them "customer discounts". This is the line item for costs where they pay a driver more than t…

What’s your take on the sustainability of these subsidized rides? Will drivers still drive if this incentive is taken away? What are some of your favorite interesting insights from that data?

Re: Uber Lays Off 400

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> The marketing team had more than 1,200... I fully admit that I'm not in marketing, so there are surely nuances I don't know. But that scale of marketing department is orders of magnitude above any other place I have worked, with the possible exception of IBM in the 90s. Just maybe... this was a reasonable move.

My guess is: a specialized marketing team per country. Also remember they have to market to both sides: rider acquisition and driver acquisition

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You think Uber employees are only making $40k???

In most of the country $40k/year is a very reasonable salary for a full-time, mid-level office role.

Mid-level? Naw.

That's lab rat money. I'd say 5-10k more, so we're close, but that's a double digit percent difference from 40k.

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Does anyone have any idea why Uber isn't profitable? I never really understood that. It's such a ubiquitous service in a large portion of the world. It seems to me that they have a lot of physical growth, so what is happening to their finances?

A lot of people use it because it's so obvious that they're operating at a loss. That's why the ride is so cheap. If they brought prices up to what they "should" be, volume would go down or the competition would snatch it up. If Uber wants to take a loss on my ride, I'll be there every time.

... and if they brought prices up to what they "should" be, I'll just use Lyft. Or if that isn't an option, get to my destination on my own.

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If a public company open-sources something (as Uber has done on occasion) that gives them a competitive advantage, could they be sued by shareholders for giving away something valuable?

Not successfully unless there's a smoking-gun type thing, like someone involved in the decisions having a clear conflict of interest with a different company they own. Courts generally won't second-guess business decisions, and if Uber says something like "we open-sourced this to build goodwill", a court is going to say fine, weighing the pros and cons of that strategy is their call, and if shareholders disagree with the strategy, they can elect a different board.

Re: Uber Lays Off 400

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They overhired so badly it's an existential threat to the company, and not even from a cost perspective. Should lay off closer to 4000, but that would have negative cultural impact too. So they're stuck. Always slightly underhire so you can be sure you didn't overhire.

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Love to revisit this piece every few years. Why food delivery will never be profitable: "The Food Delivery Death Star" https://medium.com/@review/the-food-delivery-death-star-85f9...

Pizza delivery is profitable. Pizza comes in a shape easy for transportation, the size and value of the delivery is economical for a delivery business and there's an established culture around ordering pizza for delivery. The food delivery companies just need to figure out these problems, which a hard, for non-pizza foods.

Also helps that pizzas themselves are dirt cheap to make. Anything that makes them expensive is chargeable. Continuous production is easy and cheap, so doubling your volume by adding delivery is achievable with the same kitchen.
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