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3D model of slave ship brings harrowing history to life

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Re: 3D model of slave ship brings harrowing history to life

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Post by LocalH »

xwdv wrote: post #25
corodra wrote: post #22

" "We designed the model to be sensitive to the numerous issues of representing the slave trade,” added Dr. Radburn. “The feedback we’ve received so far has been very positive. " What does being sensitive to issues about slavery mean? Is it historical accurate or not? There should be no positivity. Only accuracy. It's not like anyone truly imagines these days that any slavery from any time period was a summer camp ge…

It’s funny because “concentration camp” itself in the WW2 sense is a euphemism for death camps. A concentration camp is nothing more than a place where you concentrate individuals that you don’t want to allow to freely walk around at large but don’t want to put into individual prison cells either. Inherently, there is nothing wrong with a concentration camp.

At this point, the whole term "concentration camp" has a negative connotation and implies that the people being placed in the camp are being placed there for innate traits such as race or nationality, instead of based on their actions (in which case we just call it "jail" or "prison". Many people do think of "death camps" when they hear the term, only because of the notoriety of the Nazi camps.

The US ran their own concentration camps during WW2, to house Japanese Americans. Sure, the US didn't go to the depths of the Nazi concentration camps, but that doesn't make it any less deplorable to round people up purely based on their race or nationality (or any other now-protected status).

Re: 3D model of slave ship brings harrowing history to life

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Post by slavik81 »

pjmlp wrote: post #30
slavik81 wrote: post #13

I'm a little disappointed that they had to make a video in order for people to view the 3D model on the web. The model itself should be viewable in a browser, just like an image, a sound or a video. This is exactly the sort of thing that glTF was designed for, so maybe one day that will be a reality.

Except for glTF to work, WebGL needs to work as well and it isn't a given, without any sort of control of what kind of hardware or browser someone is using. And even if the hardware and browser offer proper WebGL support, it might occur that the drivers are black listed, thus making any proper use of WebGL unbewarable. Such is the WebGL reality, where devices with native support for OpenGL ES 3.2, might still struggl…

That's what I'm lamenting. I want to live in a world where a 3D model is no more exceptional than a JPEG.

There's no inherent requirement for OpenGL support to render glTF 2.0. WebGL is only required because browsers don't include native support.

Re: 3D model of slave ship brings harrowing history to life

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Post by pjmlp »

slavik81 wrote: post #32
pjmlp wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except for glTF to work, WebGL needs to work as well and it isn't a given, without any sort of control of what kind of hardware or browser someone is using. And even if the hardware and browser offer proper WebGL support, it might occur that the drivers are black listed, thus making any proper use of WebGL unbewarable. Such is the WebGL reality, where devices with native support for OpenGL ES 3.2, might still struggl…

That's what I'm lamenting. I want to live in a world where a 3D model is no more exceptional than a JPEG. There's no inherent requirement for OpenGL support to render glTF 2.0. WebGL is only required because browsers don't include native support.

The irony is that is exactly what Khronos shows on their glTF presentations.

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Post by ge96 »

bilbo0s wrote: post #28
ge96 wrote: post #19

I couldn't imagine the heat dang, smells, damn Screenshot from video https://i.imgur.com/9dooh8v.png

That doesn't even factor in the sea sickness. Chained and locked in one position with people stacked on top of you? Some of them vomiting on your head in a sweltering, stifling, and pitch dark hole all day for 2 or 3 months? No thanks.

2/3 months, damn, whoever is still alive…

Re: 3D model of slave ship brings harrowing history to life

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Post by woodruffw »

aaron695 wrote: post #17
woodruffw wrote: post #10

This model is cool, but also clinical: if you're interested in understanding what it was like to be an African kidnapped and sold via the Atlantic slave trade, consider reading Zora Neale Hurston's Barracoon[1] or Aley Haley's Roots[2]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barracoon:_The_Story_of_the_La... [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roots:_The_Saga_of_an_American...

Roots is fiction, please don't try an understand the world from fiction or even novels based on truth many or most 'popular' cultural autobiographies are faked, from your Roots link - "However, historians and genealogists found critical errors in his research. Most of the novel is either unsupported or contradicted by the available evidence."

Roots was advertised as a fictionalization of Haley's family lore.
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