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Now we can put slack into the list of Major league tech companies which cannot keep the services up and running 24/7. Cloudflare Facebook and its group of companies Azure cloud Google Cloud , twitter etc etc AWS, eyes are you now :)
S3 went down for nearly an entire workday a few years ago. It legit pretty much broke everything. We all went home because there was no way to do any work.
If you're a community driven project or organization using Slack, then take a look at https://zulipchat.com/ for something that sucks less, and is open source software. I've found it much more pleasant to use and less buggy than Slack.
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It seems that you could take any old-school internet tech, add some flashy GUI, slap "for enterprise" label and you get a great and popular solution that solves the problem noone ever could solve. Maybe it's time for gopher for enterprise
That's really what it comes down to. Email existed forever, but no one really liked it until Gmail made it flashy. Smartphones existed forever but no one really liked them until Apple/Google made them flashy. Search existed forever but no one really liked it until Google made it flashy. Hackers like to pretend that presentation doesn't matter, but in the end presentation is the only thing that matters.
Blackberry was absolutely massive before the iPhone, email has always been the largest use of the internet (until media became possible), and Google search became successful because it actually worked, unlike everything available at the time.
I do agree with your sentiment, though. To the user, the UI is the product.
Half failing is way worse than completely failing.
Slightly offtopic : As a remote engineer, I wonder if half-duplex voice (kind of like a CB radio) would be superior for communication vs typing everything? E.g. when I have an idea, I just talk, that comment is recorded and made available to the chat room. I'd like to get back some of the nuance of language that just isn't possible with text. There'd have to be some easy way of playing back the voice snippets in orde…
I've wanted to build a proper calling-tree & follow client for Pagerduty (or, own platform) because there's still a need for non-technical notifications in an org where people just won't visit a status page... or when sales/tech support need to know sooner, rather than later, than an environment is suddenly down.
If you're a community driven project or organization using Slack, then take a look at https://zulipchat.com/ for something that sucks less, and is open source software. I've found it much more pleasant to use and less buggy than Slack.
Wish we wouldn’t use such language, “sucks less” is highly subjective and your opinion but we don’t need to disparage Slack in order to make a point that alternatives like Zulip are available. Seems like especially poor tone on an outage thread... “Don’t kick them while they’re down” or something?
Not sure why you think OP can’t say “Slack sucks”.
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> then take a look at https://zulipchat.com/ for something that sucks less, and is open source software. I really want to like Zulip Chat. It has everything all the alternatives have + self-hosting, but as soon as they switched to their Electron client, it has become yet another resource hog that I have to put up with. I already have to put up with 10+ electron apps slowing down my Macbook. I shouldn't have to make s…
10+ electron apps seems excessive, what other Electron apps are you running? I think Slack is the only one I'm running (that I know of)
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See, I love it. I work for a mostly-remote company and before Slack we had an IM product but it was a 1:1 chat. Having an always-on chat room for the entire team, knowing other teams use the same product and I can pop into their chat room, spinning up channels for project teams, etc. It's been a huge boost to our company. And since so many companies have settled on the same solution, when I'm working with a client I…
It seems that you could take any old-school internet tech, add some flashy GUI, slap "for enterprise" label and you get a great and popular solution that solves the problem noone ever could solve. Maybe it's time for gopher for enterprise
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Wish we wouldn’t use such language, “sucks less” is highly subjective and your opinion but we don’t need to disparage Slack in order to make a point that alternatives like Zulip are available. Seems like especially poor tone on an outage thread... “Don’t kick them while they’re down” or something?
"suck less" is a specific software development philosophy https://suckless.org/philosophy/