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GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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There's a lot of misinformation in this thread, from GitHub CEO [1]:

"It is painful for me to hear how trade restrictions have hurt people. We have gone to great lengths to do no more than what is required by the law, but of course people are still affected. GitHub is subject to US trade law, just like any company that does business in the US."

"To comply with US sanctions, we unfortunately had to implement new restrictions on private repos and paid accounts in Iran, Syria, and Crimea.

Public repos remain available to developers everywhere – open source repos are NOT affected."

"The restrictions are based on place of residence and location, not on nationality or heritage. If someone was flagged in error, they can fill out a form to get the restrictions lifted on their account within hours.

More info is on our policy page: https://help.github.com/en/articles/github-and-trade-control... "

GitHub is just complying with US trade law, it's not just because they're a US company, any company doing business in the US also has to comply.

[1] https://twitter.com/natfriedman/status/1155311121038864384

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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The amount of harassment that citizens of any state that the US claims to hate at any given time endure on a daily basis is disgusting. Exiled iranians living outside of Iran for 20 years have got their bank accounts closed solely for being Iranian. I can't help but think that these internet services will be going that way in the future. The fact that the "free software" community is not putting their foot down for t…

Ya know what was actually disgusting? The war in Iraq, or any other recent regime change the US executed. If economic warfare is the way it’s done now, then that’s great. Let the casualties be inconvenienced github users, rather than ya know, actual casualties...

http://cepr.net/press-center/press-releases/report-finds-us-...

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Are you and 'tomohawk' the same person? Otherwise I don't see a reason why you have brought up 'ethnic cleansing' in this thread. Nonetheless, the deportation of Crimean Tatars by Stalin in 1944 is a crime and has been repeatedly recognized as such by the modern Russia. "Most of the Russian population in Crimea are second/third generation settlers" Even the biased Wikipedia article you linked to doesn't support that.…

Yes, I was off with the numbers, so I had deleted my comment just before you replied to it. But the point is still valid: the current ethnic composition of Crimea was greatly affected by the deportation.

> According to your own link Crimean Tatars constituted 20% of the population in 1939, nowadays the number 12-15%. I wouldn't call it 'greatly affected'.

Lots of people died as a result of the deportation. The uprooting inhibited the natural population growth over the years. Lots of Crimean Tatars now live outside of Crimea.

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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I know lots of Iranian people and they are universally kind generous lovely people. I hate the way Iran is demonized so politicians can point out an enemy. We were flat out lied to about Iraq. Demonization of Iran is no different.

Irans government is pretty backwards. The Iranian society is and was much more open a few decades ago. Truly a sad story of development in the completely wrong direction.

It was the CIA backed coup of 1953 that led to this "wrong direction" in the first place.

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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These countries are run by some of the most violent and oppressive regimes in the world. Let’s not pretend that the US is responsible for the quality of life of the people living there. These sanctions are entirely non-violent. The actual word you’re looking for is harmful. They’re designed to be harmful, economically. Responding to regimes like this with economic pressure is most certainly preferable to actual viole…

In all fairness, the Iranian government is more popular in Iran than the US govenment in the US. The US sanctions wasn't enacted to help the Iranian people, but to weaken a country that the US perceives as an adversary.

> the Iranian government is more popular in Iran than the US govenment in the US

It really would be sad if you controlled the media, religious doctrines as interpreted by the gov't (which you can't criticize), had censors, and couldn't pull that off.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_of_Iran

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Yes, I was off with the numbers, so I had deleted my comment just before you replied to it. But the point is still valid: the current ethnic composition of Crimea was greatly affected by the deportation.

> According to your own link Crimean Tatars constituted 20% of the population in 1939, nowadays the number 12-15%. I wouldn't call it 'greatly affected'. Lots of people died as a result of the deportation. The uprooting inhibited the natural population growth over the years. Lots of Crimean Tatars now live outside of Crimea.

I don't see your point, honestly.
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