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Dead End Jobs: Are You Suffering from Stockholm Syndrome?

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Re: Dead End Jobs: Are You Suffering from Stockholm Syndrome?

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I just left a job that afflicts Stockholm Syndrome on employees. Thankfully as a systems programmer in a research firm, I avoided the worst of it, but most people weren't so lucky. Here are some management behaviors that were effective: Never thank people for finishing something on time, on budget, and to the project specifications. Instead, heap attention on those who finish in an all-nighter that ends in the final…

A couple others I've witnessed: Ideas only go down When employees tell you of actually useful innovations to a product do NOT agree it is a good idea. Mention that it is cute they are trying, and pretend to forget about it. In 3-6 months have a VP flash brilliance and push that innovation down from the top. All employee protests of "I have been pushing for this for months" are to be stonewalled, possibly with discipl…

That seems all too familiar. Thanks.

Re: Dead End Jobs: Are You Suffering from Stockholm Syndrome?

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>>Perceived threat

Put in place a procedure to rate people in a relative fashion, and link this to benefits and compensation. Make hard slabs in percentage for each rating (excellent 10%, good 25%, average 50%, below average - rest). Does not matter if there is a team full of awesome wonderful guys, someone is going to get rated as 'below average'; and in a team comprising mostly of below average guys, many still end up getting 'excellent'/'good'.

>>Small kindness

Boast of world-class infrastructure, gym, sprawling campus. This would trump the fact that BigCo pays less than industry average, or the abysmal type of work involved.

>>Isolation from other perspectives

Again, the cult of personality and culture vacuum as mentioned in the post. And a lot of make-believe thrown in. And Goebbels style propaganda to instill that "all's well" notion, worked out masterfully. Not many within this BigCo would know that the tools of the trade are, or the best practices, or even the options in terms of technology.

>>Perceived inability to escape

In case of few places I know, this is not just perceived, it would be a hard fact and reality. Maintaining legacy VB code, spending an average of 6 months on every sort of technology (without mastering anything), and being an excel warrior aren't really great on resumes (except of course when applying for BigCo, that is).

"Institutionalization" is the word that many of my colleagues use to convey the feeling. :(

Re: Dead End Jobs: Are You Suffering from Stockholm Syndrome?

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Living in a society where you have to pay taxes and obey the law, matches the Stockholm Syndrome characteristics. Society, the political system and its forces (police, army) is the abuser that threatens if you don't pay your bills, taxes etc., isolates us from different perspectives, occasionally shows a little kindness, and it's seamingly impossible to escape that situation.

The difference is we get to choose who's the abuser going to be.

Re: Dead End Jobs: Are You Suffering from Stockholm Syndrome?

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I've done it when it wasn't prudent either. People who look at my salary history tend to have their jaw hit the floor when they look at the first 8-to-9 years. I used to have my own bosses tell me every day that I was "getting screwed". We're talking 25-33% of market rate, which traps you into slightly less crappy paychecks going forward and initially being typecast as an idiot. That was my fault for being a door…

Just a question out of interest - how/why are people looking at your salary history?

Formal job applications.

Re: Dead End Jobs: Are You Suffering from Stockholm Syndrome?

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post #72

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Send me your resume and portfolio. I'm recruiting for my company outside of HR because we need more awesome people with initiative. The month since I started at Groupon has been the best month of my career. Mtn View or Chicago, your pick.

I was only ranting in what I thought was an appropriate thread, but thank you very much for replying. I appreciate the good will on HN. Keep in mind, I may just be declaring myself Parfe, King of Idiots but when I'm happy with my resume I'll definitely be in touch.

Acknowledging that you're an idiot is the first step :) It means that whether you're good or not, you know enough to know that you can never stop working at it, and that's a good trait to have.

If you like, I can review your resume privately and let you know an idea of your chances, as well as make any recommendations to help make yourself more attractive to good tech employers.

Re: Dead End Jobs: Are You Suffering from Stockholm Syndrome?

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post #12

Dead end jobs destroy transferable technical skills. I've witnessed miserable scenes. Many people are stuck maintaining large pieces of poorly written software. They forget how to actually program because their work involves very little development, and becomes all about knowing how the specific piece of software works (and the company's admin procedures) so that they can fight fires and make minor changes. Escape in…

This assessment is spot on. I'm in this situation now. While I haven't forgotten how to program, my skills have plateaued and have been at this level for far longer than I'd like to admit. I eventually realized that I needed to get out. I've sent out my resume and interviewed, but have had little success. I really had no idea how bad off I was until I started interviewing at other companies. I can't overstate the val…

Wow, your sstatement read like the past six months for me. Good luck.

Re: Dead End Jobs: Are You Suffering from Stockholm Syndrome?

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post #94

My wife read this over my shoulder and said it is extremely accurate for teach for America. They not only make you love your employer, but feel like a terrible person for quitting.

Obligatory: "Teach for America Chews Up, Spits Out Another Ethnic-Studies Major"

http://www.theonion.com/articles/teach-for-america-chews-up-...

Re: Dead End Jobs: Are You Suffering from Stockholm Syndrome?

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post #61

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"* Fear of failure is a great motivator. When you quit without having another opportunity already lined up, you have a lot of obvious motivation to find a new job since your income is $0. I've found it easier than lulling myself into complacency by continuing to get my income from the source I hate" Just remember that you are a more desired candidate if you are actively employed, and that other available jobs might b…

>Just remember that you are a more desired candidate if you are actively employed This doesn't apply in all industries. >and that other available jobs might be just as bad or worse than your current one This also only applies if you aren't the one in control. I could get a substantially better job, and I knew it, not fearful if I could get any job at all.

Which industries does that not apply to?

Re: Dead End Jobs: Are You Suffering from Stockholm Syndrome?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This assessment is spot on. I'm in this situation now. While I haven't forgotten how to program, my skills have plateaued and have been at this level for far longer than I'd like to admit. I eventually realized that I needed to get out. I've sent out my resume and interviewed, but have had little success. I really had no idea how bad off I was until I started interviewing at other companies. I can't overstate the val…

Wow, your sstatement read like the past six months for me. Good luck.

Thanks. Were you able to escape?
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