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Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Post by xtracto »

meitham wrote: post #142
AmericanChopper wrote: post #119

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These countries are run by some of the most violent and oppressive regimes in the world. Let’s not pretend that the US is responsible for the quality of life of the people living there. These sanctions are entirely non-violent. The actual word you’re looking for is harmful. They’re designed to be harmful, economically. Responding to regimes like this with economic pressure is most certainly preferable to actual viole…

In all fairness, the Iranian government is more popular in Iran than the US govenment in the US. The US sanctions wasn't enacted to help the Iranian people, but to weaken a country that the US perceives as an adversary.

This is important. This kind of actions have to be taken as what they are: unilateral actions of a country against another. It is just the US defending what it sees as they interests. But for the rest of the world it is just a maneuver.

For some people in the USA it is difficult to see it. Given their (expected) skew towards their country. But people outside that country can see it with a more objective perspective.

Similar thing is happening with the concentration camps in the south.

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Post by slenk »

not_a_cop75 wrote: post #186
wickerman wrote: post #36

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The amount of harassment that citizens of any state that the US claims to hate at any given time endure on a daily basis is disgusting. Exiled iranians living outside of Iran for 20 years have got their bank accounts closed solely for being Iranian. I can't help but think that these internet services will be going that way in the future. The fact that the "free software" community is not putting their foot down for t…

It's unfortunately hard to separate good and honest foreigners from those that would prefer to destroy other nation states.

Yeah but I would argue that the US is actually destroying other nation-states

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Post by theturtletalks »

emilfihlman wrote: post #209
theturtletalks wrote: post #187

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They added the option to make private repos public so you can back it up. But again, you can’t delete the now public repo.

>They added the option to make private repos public so you can back it up. And allow all to see their contents, likes business and trade secrets. Top tier.

Yep. If you want to access your blocked private repo, you literally have to let everyone access it. And you can’t even delete it afterwards.

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Post by arcticfox »

IceWreck wrote: post #148
tallanvor wrote: post #105

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The idea is to try and make it unsustainable for Russia to hold. --They have to pour money into the region to keep control of it due to people in the region being unhappy, out of work, etc. I'm not saying it's necessarily a good strategy, mind you.

> They have to pour money into the region to keep control of it due to people in the region being unhappy, out of work, etc. From what I've heard Russia is doing exactly that. And the people there seem happy, atleast according to a reddit AMA by a Crimean.

> And the people there seem happy, atleast according to a reddit AMA by a Crimean.

It's amazing to me that anyone would put any faith in a random AMA in an occupied territory.

For an alternative random redditor, this guy had to get divorced, all his friends left, and he's leaving for Kiev: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/9p6d9r/serious_r...

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Post by markvdb »

not_a_cop75 wrote: post #186
wickerman wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The amount of harassment that citizens of any state that the US claims to hate at any given time endure on a daily basis is disgusting. Exiled iranians living outside of Iran for 20 years have got their bank accounts closed solely for being Iranian. I can't help but think that these internet services will be going that way in the future. The fact that the "free software" community is not putting their foot down for t…

It's unfortunately hard to separate good and honest foreigners from those that would prefer to destroy other nation states.

s/foreigners/people/ .

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Post by ashelmire »

raxxorrax wrote: post #165
blodovnik wrote: post #16

I know lots of Iranian people and they are universally kind generous lovely people. I hate the way Iran is demonized so politicians can point out an enemy. We were flat out lied to about Iraq. Demonization of Iran is no different.

Irans government is pretty backwards. The Iranian society is and was much more open a few decades ago. Truly a sad story of development in the completely wrong direction.

Have you seen the US lately? We're en route to undoing Roe v Wade, the Civil Rights Act, years of progress on other matters, etc, and we've already basically given up on functional democracy by allowing corporations to spend as much as they want on candidates. What do they say about those in glass houses...?

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Post by fartcannon »

dijit wrote: post #163
cochne wrote: post #106

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It looks like the free services provided by GitHub are still available: "A selection of GitHub services such as access to public repositories will remain available to everyone, the company said in a statement on its website. “This includes limited access to GitHub public repository services (such as access to GitHub Pages and public repositories used for open source projects), for personal communications only, and no…

This is interesting, I didn’t see that. In which case they are actually providing -more- than gitlab does.

It's google that's blocking gitlab users/servers. Gitlab's mistake is using Google.

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Post by jayshua »

aerojoe23 wrote: post #203

I think it is interesting and a shame that we accept centralized issue tracking at all. Git is wonderfully distributed, probably in more than most of the github users realize. Unless they've gone out of their way to learn about it. When things like this (github's ban) happen, I think it is too bad that we don't have a widely accepted issue tracker built into git. To be a little more clear, you'd get all of the source…

I mean, you could just make a folder with a text file in it for each issues. People can write comments in it. Move them into a "complete" folder when done. Write down who it's assigned to at the top. You wouldn't get some of the more complex features of course, but I'm not sure a git built in issue tracker could do most of that anyway. Not clear how it could send email notifications?

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Post by adamsea »

not_a_cop75 wrote: post #186
wickerman wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The amount of harassment that citizens of any state that the US claims to hate at any given time endure on a daily basis is disgusting. Exiled iranians living outside of Iran for 20 years have got their bank accounts closed solely for being Iranian. I can't help but think that these internet services will be going that way in the future. The fact that the "free software" community is not putting their foot down for t…

It's unfortunately hard to separate good and honest foreigners from those that would prefer to destroy other nation states.

Dude we had a perfectly reasonable nuclear deal with Iran that the idiot who shall not be named chose to break.

It’s not Iran that’s the greatest threat to the security and growth of the US - currently our greatest threat is “homegrown” and tomato-faced.

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