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Yeah, it's totally abhorrent that the US blocks people that would prefer they get wiped off the face of the earth. How dare they!!!
Have you considered that regular people that live under an oppressive totalitarian government have no control over said government and are actually just victims?
GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea
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#192EDIT: I stand corrected.
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#193I wonder is those could be related to cyber security measures, not political measures.
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> and those companies are also having US clients, proving that it can be done. Proving they haven't been caught, or may not even know about the US Dept of Commerce entity list.
Yes, in a way they haven't been caught. However, I want to point out that only US companies and persons are obligated to follow the sanctions. The reason why foreign companies might also follow them is because they don't want to end up being designated themselves. And this is not realistically going to happen unless you are a large multinational, bank, or doing business in sensitive sectors. Not actively blocking acc…
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#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
> and those companies are also having US clients, proving that it can be done. Proving they haven't been caught, or may not even know about the US Dept of Commerce entity list.
Yes, in a way they haven't been caught. However, I want to point out that only US companies and persons are obligated to follow the sanctions. The reason why foreign companies might also follow them is because they don't want to end up being designated themselves. And this is not realistically going to happen unless you are a large multinational, bank, or doing business in sensitive sectors. Not actively blocking acc…
So in this case, if Bank of America had a company subscription with this hypothetical Maltese GitHub, BoA would be in breach, and could face sanctions (and this would probably cause the Maltese GH to get on the entity list as well)
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#197As far as I know, SourceHut[1] is still available everywhere. [1] https://sourcehut.org/ EDIT: I stand corrected.
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That's not true. There are already many non-US companies who are providing services to Iran in the same sense that Github is providing services, and those companies are also having US clients, proving that it can be done. Now, if a Maltese-Github were specifically designated by OFAC, then sure. But that's fairly unlikely.
So is it just a question of risk tolerance? Are the laws clear or are companies like GitHub in a grey area with out precedence?
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No they don't! The sanction is against the country, not nationals. So if you are a developer from the U.S. with U.S. nationality and move to Cuba the sanctions would also apply to you. Actually there is a very good wikipedia page "United States sanctions against Iran" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_sanctions_agains... about this, if you want more info.
I don't mean to be flippant, but it will sound this way. I trust Oracles lawyers to know the law better than a wikipedia page. http://www.oracle.com/us/products/export/export-regulations-...
Nationality of individuals is primarily relevant for deemed-export under ITAR/EAR; not the OFAC sanctions on Iran.