Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's more like the Iranian government.
Not like the US government is any better right now
As long as the government just calls people names instead of invading them, I am completely fine with that. Progress, I guess.
GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea
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Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea
#172Crimea: Illegal occupation by Russia. Ethnic cleansing. Syria: Using chemical weapons, sponsoring terrorism Iran: Assisting Syria; Actively developing nukes they say they will use, nuclear proliferation, biggest sponsor of terrorism, .... On the other hand, some people can't use an internet service. Oh! The inhumanity! Get a sense of proportion.
As far as I've seen there's no proof of Iran actively developing nuclear weapons, and they've denied doing so. Crimea is under illegal occupation by Russia, shouldn't that mean that the whole of Russia is sanctioned and not Crimea, which still belongs to the Ukraine?
IIRC the whole point of economic restrictions on the occupied territories is to increase number of unsatisfied people which could oppose the occupation from inside.
Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea
#173Same as Gitlab then[0]. US Sanctions should not affect internet services (so long as they are provided for free)[1], but political pressure appears to be very strong. Personally I find it quite abhorrent, and would cite this as a reason not to use US based companies in future. [0]: https://about.gitlab.com/2018/07/19/gcp-move-update/ [1]: https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/...
The amount of harassment that citizens of any state that the US claims to hate at any given time endure on a daily basis is disgusting. Exiled iranians living outside of Iran for 20 years have got their bank accounts closed solely for being Iranian. I can't help but think that these internet services will be going that way in the future. The fact that the "free software" community is not putting their foot down for t…
How do you come to this conclusion, and what exactly do you mean by "free software community"? Github/Microsoft?
There are quite some free software projects that use their own code hosting (e.g. https://salsa.debian.org). But if you don't have time for that and use github for your OSS project you are now disgusting because of the iranian sanctions?
How about gender equality? CO2 neutral servers? Why are the ones that put effort into building and improving things blamed for not being at least perfect?
Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea
#174Same as Gitlab then[0]. US Sanctions should not affect internet services (so long as they are provided for free)[1], but political pressure appears to be very strong. Personally I find it quite abhorrent, and would cite this as a reason not to use US based companies in future. [0]: https://about.gitlab.com/2018/07/19/gcp-move-update/ [1]: https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/...
Yeah, it's totally abhorrent that the US blocks people that would prefer they get wiped off the face of the earth. How dare they!!!
Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea
#175Same as Gitlab then[0]. US Sanctions should not affect internet services (so long as they are provided for free)[1], but political pressure appears to be very strong. Personally I find it quite abhorrent, and would cite this as a reason not to use US based companies in future. [0]: https://about.gitlab.com/2018/07/19/gcp-move-update/ [1]: https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/...
Yeah, it's totally abhorrent that the US blocks people that would prefer they get wiped off the face of the earth. How dare they!!!
Your sentence uses "they" ambiguously, FYI. Two very different interpretations possible.
Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea
#176Same as Gitlab then[0]. US Sanctions should not affect internet services (so long as they are provided for free)[1], but political pressure appears to be very strong. Personally I find it quite abhorrent, and would cite this as a reason not to use US based companies in future. [0]: https://about.gitlab.com/2018/07/19/gcp-move-update/ [1]: https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/...
Yeah, it's totally abhorrent that the US blocks people that would prefer they get wiped off the face of the earth. How dare they!!!
Have you considered that regular people that live under an oppressive totalitarian government have no control over said government and are actually just victims?
Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea
#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a pretty gross generalisation of the people and issues at stake. "We" the individual freedom loving, contributors. "They", the rogue nations using open source software to oppress and enslave. Honestly it boggles my mind how easily you slipped into that mentality in response to the comment you replied to - a comment describing people caught in the crossfire, affected by the choices of nations at war, individua…
If an individual feels wrongly and disproportionately impacted by US sanctions they can apply to the SEC for a waiver. A small, lonely dev will probably be ok. But the issue isn't with one dev who gets caught in the crossfire. You want to stop fighting a blazing inferno to mount a rescue operation because there's one kitten in the burning apartment building. Individual liberties cannot be realized without sanctions a…
> Individual liberties cannot be realized without sanctions and foreign policy.
What kind of jingo non-sense is that?
We now have over a century of data on how effective US foreign policy is at promoting democracy around the world and if you read the history even badly, you can't help but notice that it's much better at killing people in monstrous numbers than at promoting individual liberty.
Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea
#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
pff, ridiculous comment. a region doesn't have the right to attach itself to another state. think about it. a bunch of russians move to somewhere near grand canion, do a referendum and then proclaim it russian territory.
Crimea is a special case: it used to be Russian but was reassigned to the Ukraine at the time when they both were part of the USSR. It wasn't a big deal until the USSR dissolved and suddenly Crimean residents turned out to be in a foreign country.
It had been Turkish before it was Russian. Should we go on?
Besides, the indigenous population (Crimean Tatars) and the Ukrainians in Crimea never thought of Ukraine as a foreign country.
Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea
#179Same as Gitlab then[0]. US Sanctions should not affect internet services (so long as they are provided for free)[1], but political pressure appears to be very strong. Personally I find it quite abhorrent, and would cite this as a reason not to use US based companies in future. [0]: https://about.gitlab.com/2018/07/19/gcp-move-update/ [1]: https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/...
The thing I am woried is that harfbuzz is developed by Iranian developer. It is an integral part of Linux font stack.
If we end up with a project like [1] actually taking off, then with Secure Scuttlebutt you wouldn't need to care about server hosting and the pub servers could be distributed globally.
[1]: https://people.kernel.org/monsieuricon/patches-carved-into-d...
Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea
#180That's a great opportunity to build similar code-hosting platforms (and other software/services) outside of the US. Just for political reasons many people might like to switch...