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Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

#52
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing I am woried is that harfbuzz is developed by Iranian developer. It is an integral part of Linux font stack.

Well, for a well-known project, they won't miss GitHub visibility benefits. They can host the git repository anywhere. Self-host an issue tracking system or find a non-US company that does that (and is not required to follow US sanctions due to trade agreements, that'll be hard). It's an annoyance, for sure.

The problem is that they'd require a payment method to rent the server somewhere else or to use a non-US company that doesn't offer a generous free plan. The most prominent payment providers (Visa, MasterCard, PayPal) are all US-based.

> (and is not required to follow US sanctions due to trade agreements, that'll be hard).

I really don't know much about sanctions against Syria and Crimea, but Iranian developers could use every country that hasn't withdrawn from the Iran deal: EU, UK (separate signature, regardless of Brexit), Russia, China.

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

#55
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Behdad Esfahbod lives in Canada though, also most of his FOSS contribution (pango, fontconfig etc) are on the freedesktop.org and GNOME git repo servers, not GitHub.

I know this is just nitpicking, but US Sanctions apply to sanctioned state nationals; regardless of location.

Are you sure ?

Quoted from GitHub CEO Nat Friedman on Twitter:

> The restrictions are based on place of residence and location, not on nationality or heritage. If someone was flagged in error, they can fill out a form to get the restrictions lifted on their account within hours.

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

#56
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing I am woried is that harfbuzz is developed by Iranian developer. It is an integral part of Linux font stack.

I would have said "move to git.kernel.org" but that's also hosted by a US based provider: organisation: ORG-PHI3-RIPE org-name: Packet Host Inc org-type: OTHER address: 30 Vesey Street, Suite 900, New York, NY 10007 US And, obviously GNOME git servers are US based, since they're owned by RedHat/IBM.

Use a self hosted gogs installation (https://gogs.io/) under your own domain and root server outside US jurisdiction.

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

#57
post #26

If Crimea was unwillingly annexed by Russia, then the sanction is punishing the victim instead of the criminal. If Crimea people genuinely supported the unification with Russia and received sanction for that, then it is a blatant attack on Crimean people's freedom.

pff, ridiculous comment. a region doesn't have the right to attach itself to another state. think about it. a bunch of russians move to somewhere near grand canion, do a referendum and then proclaim it russian territory.

There aren't many examples of Unification, but there are examples, maybe this wouldn't be considered one of them.

My home country for instance is the "United Kingdom" which is made of up of countries/territories that unified many hundreds of years ago.

There's other examples such as the formation of Italy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_unification

However, if it's not annexation it's probably better described as "ceding"; an American example: France ceded Louisiana to the United States by the treaty of Paris, of April 30, 1803. Spain made a cession of East and West Florida by the treaty of February 22, 1819.

Cessions have been severally made of a part of their territory by New York, Virginia, Massachusetts, Connecticut, South Carolina, North Carolina, and Georgia.

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

#59
post #26

If Crimea was unwillingly annexed by Russia, then the sanction is punishing the victim instead of the criminal. If Crimea people genuinely supported the unification with Russia and received sanction for that, then it is a blatant attack on Crimean people's freedom.

pff, ridiculous comment. a region doesn't have the right to attach itself to another state. think about it. a bunch of russians move to somewhere near grand canion, do a referendum and then proclaim it russian territory.

But that's _literally_ how a bunch of countries split from other countries. In a different context, we might celebrate it and call it "gaining independence" or "reuniting with their motherland".

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

#60
post #26

If Crimea was unwillingly annexed by Russia, then the sanction is punishing the victim instead of the criminal. If Crimea people genuinely supported the unification with Russia and received sanction for that, then it is a blatant attack on Crimean people's freedom.

pff, ridiculous comment. a region doesn't have the right to attach itself to another state. think about it. a bunch of russians move to somewhere near grand canion, do a referendum and then proclaim it russian territory.

Isn't that how Texas became part of the US?
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