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Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Crimea: Illegal occupation by Russia. Ethnic cleansing. Syria: Using chemical weapons, sponsoring terrorism Iran: Assisting Syria; Actively developing nukes they say they will use, nuclear proliferation, biggest sponsor of terrorism, .... On the other hand, some people can't use an internet service. Oh! The inhumanity! Get a sense of proportion.

Why would you sanction a country that has been invaded and is being ethnic cleansed? Get a sense of not being an idiot.

Crimea is guilty of being weak I guess?

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Crimea: Illegal occupation by Russia. Ethnic cleansing. Syria: Using chemical weapons, sponsoring terrorism Iran: Assisting Syria; Actively developing nukes they say they will use, nuclear proliferation, biggest sponsor of terrorism, .... On the other hand, some people can't use an internet service. Oh! The inhumanity! Get a sense of proportion.

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Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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The thing I am woried is that harfbuzz is developed by Iranian developer. It is an integral part of Linux font stack.

Behdad Esfahbod lives in Canada though, also most of his FOSS contribution (pango, fontconfig etc) are on the freedesktop.org and GNOME git repo servers, not GitHub.

I know this is just nitpicking, but US Sanctions apply to sanctioned state nationals; regardless of location.

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Why would you sanction a country that has been invaded and is being ethnic cleansed? Get a sense of not being an idiot.

After ethnically cleansing, who is left / moves in? The perpetrators. I'm sure you will figure it out if you think about it a little more.

don't bother, they re pro russian trolls. a lot of comments here seem to accept russian annexation

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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I wonder is those could be related to cyber security measures, not political measures.

Very unlikely in my opinion - if the Iranian Revolutionary Guard did want to attack something, I doubt they would do it from an IP address in their own country. I'm sure they have a decent botnet or two somewhere else, that's like opsec 101.

Similarly, although Crimea specifically is now IP-banned, the rest of the Russian Federation is not.

This is exactly what it looks like: a political sanction.

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Crimea: Illegal occupation by Russia. Ethnic cleansing. Syria: Using chemical weapons, sponsoring terrorism Iran: Assisting Syria; Actively developing nukes they say they will use, nuclear proliferation, biggest sponsor of terrorism, .... On the other hand, some people can't use an internet service. Oh! The inhumanity! Get a sense of proportion.

Then embargo Russia not Crimea, right? I mean, they are just the invaded population.

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Crimea: Illegal occupation by Russia. Ethnic cleansing. Syria: Using chemical weapons, sponsoring terrorism Iran: Assisting Syria; Actively developing nukes they say they will use, nuclear proliferation, biggest sponsor of terrorism, .... On the other hand, some people can't use an internet service. Oh! The inhumanity! Get a sense of proportion.

US: actively developing weapons of mass destruction. Has committed several war crimes and illegally occupied territories in the middle east. Actively funded and continues to fund international terrorism. Israel: ethnic cleansing in the occupied territories in Palestine. Yet Crimea, Syria and Iran are the bad guys (btw Iran was funded by the US - yes same regime that now the US cries against).

Ignorant here; how has the US illegally occupied territories in the middle east? Illegal under which jurisdiction? For an invading force, there would be only potential jurisdictions, no? International and/or their own. If it were International, the US would face sanctions. If it were illegal under US law, how could it persist?

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Crimea: Illegal occupation by Russia. Ethnic cleansing. Syria: Using chemical weapons, sponsoring terrorism Iran: Assisting Syria; Actively developing nukes they say they will use, nuclear proliferation, biggest sponsor of terrorism, .... On the other hand, some people can't use an internet service. Oh! The inhumanity! Get a sense of proportion.

The anti-US ideology is strong here, and it's a losing battle speaking reason to ideologues. The ideology is rooted in something I am sympathetic to, even though I am very pro-US.

Many here and elsewhere on the internet are either not from the US, or - if they are US citizens - do not personally identify with the power-elite that they feel controls the nation, or with the majority of citizens that comprise the national populace. The US being the most powerful and influential nation on Earth can be intimidating to these outsiders, which in them fuels an innate anti-US bias.

This bias means that negative things the US does are maximized while the positive things are minimized in a weighted judgement of the US's moral worthiness.

Substitute any other country as the most powerful in the world and they would suffer this bias as well. If Belgium were to become a superpower, its good actions would be outweighed by its bad actions in the minds of international observers. Whether dealing with individuals or countries, being skeptical of those more powerful than us is an innate human reflex.

That said, because this reflexive anti-US ideology is biased against the US, it can be frustrating for patriotic citizens and the USA's many global supporters.

I believe that the price of being the most powerful nation is that you just need to be extra careful in your actions, similar to how the biggest people need to take extra care to not intimidate others.

Outsiders should also take this analysis to heart when making judgements about the US. Recognizing how biases and reflexive thinking colour our perception is very important in order to avoid developing a skewed vision of reality.

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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This really is reason to start thinking about alternatives to github. Now the vast majority of open source projects are controlled by Microsoft corporation which must obey the US goverent and this is the outcome.

Downvoted. Github was subject to US law before MS took it over; gitlab is not MS-owned but had to do the same (not sure about bitbucket but I imagine it's similar). Whether the #1 place to host open-source projects should be owned by a company that makes a closed-source OS is a good debate question but it's completely orthogonal to whether they have to comply with US law. I'm not saying I agree either with the sancti…

So why haven't all websites cut off these countries?

Why haven't the ISPs cut off these countries?

Github has acted because github is under the control of a giant corporation, Microsoft or otherwise.

So there's a line that runs precisely from Microsoft acquisition to cutting off countries from the world's largest open source repository. It's a direct outcome of the Microsoft acquisition.

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