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Fannie Mae Unix Engineer Gets 41 Months for Planting Logic Bomb

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Re: Fannie Mae Unix Engineer Gets 41 Months for Planting Logic Bomb

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Just imagine if that guy had been successful. Americans would have been debt free!!

You think that debt wasn't leveraged? You think people can just not pay back loans and no one gets hurt?

Yeah it's easy, just convince everyone you're too big to fail and have the American taxpayer pay it off.

Re: Fannie Mae Unix Engineer Gets 41 Months for Planting Logic Bomb

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More info here - http://news.softpedia.com/news/Rogue-IT-admin-Close-to-Shutt...

During this time Makwana had root access to all of the main systems This quote above, and the entire article boggles the mind. I've worked with big and small organizations that protected root on <10 machines like it was the key to preventing aging.

The more systems there are, the more likely this kind of thing is.

Re: Fannie Mae Unix Engineer Gets 41 Months for Planting Logic Bomb

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More info here - http://news.softpedia.com/news/Rogue-IT-admin-Close-to-Shutt...

During this time Makwana had root access to all of the main systems This quote above, and the entire article boggles the mind. I've worked with big and small organizations that protected root on <10 machines like it was the key to preventing aging.

Still, somebody has to have it. If the number of people is too low, you risk them all being unavailable when you really need them. And there isn't a whole lot you can do to stop a malicious actor who already has root.

Re: Fannie Mae Unix Engineer Gets 41 Months for Planting Logic Bomb

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While it will probably always be hard to stop inside-man attacks, it will probably always be easy to do backups :)

Just imagine if that guy had been successful. Americans would have been debt free!!

Actually what would happen is taxpayers would have to pay more to recover the data and go through the physical copies. So in reality we would be in more debt. Life isn't Fight club. (Movie not book)

Re: Fannie Mae Unix Engineer Gets 41 Months for Planting Logic Bomb

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41 months seems exceptionally high given that it was discovered before execution. It would take me an hour to dig it all up, but there are federal sentencing guidelines based on the dollar amount of damages. I don't think they take potential damages into account.

Funny, I came here looking for the exact opposite post to upvote. Seems exceptionally low to me, given the obvious malicious intent and potential damages. But I'm mostly ignorant about the relevant law.

I assume you mean relative to other sentences/crimes you're aware of? It may be low compared to those, but in general, American sentences seem exceptionally high to me, and this is a good example.

I don't think a stronger sentence would have deterred him. I doubt he sat down and thought "If I get caught, I'll only get 3 1/2 years, which isn't too bad. Now, if I would get 10 years, that's another story..." I doubt he even knew the specific penalties for doing this. It seems to me he assumed he'd never get caught.

I think others reading this article will be deterred by the thought of losing 3 1/2 years of their life, and having their life after prison ruined in many ways. For example, try to explain a 3 1/2 year gap in your employment history during a job interview. And for the ones who aren't, I don't think a 10 year sentence would somehow deter them.

I don't think this guy is likely to commit another such crime after his release. I doubt he figures that 3 1/2 years in jail and putting his life back together isn't that big a deal and planting another logic bomb feels so good that it's worth it to do it again.

The only other motivation for punishing a crime is vengeance, an emotional feeling of hurting someone who tried to hurt us. That seems a poor motivation for taking away even more of someone's life.

He did something malicious that could have caused a lot of problems. He needs to be punished. But the punishment seems way out of proportion to what's needed to reduce crime.

Re: Fannie Mae Unix Engineer Gets 41 Months for Planting Logic Bomb

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny, I came here looking for the exact opposite post to upvote. Seems exceptionally low to me, given the obvious malicious intent and potential damages. But I'm mostly ignorant about the relevant law.

I assume you mean relative to other sentences/crimes you're aware of? It may be low compared to those, but in general, American sentences seem exceptionally high to me, and this is a good example. I don't think a stronger sentence would have deterred him. I doubt he sat down and thought "If I get caught, I'll only get 3 1/2 years, which isn't too bad. Now, if I would get 10 years, that's another story..." I doubt he…

For completeness' sake, there is a third reason for incarceration - The prisoner can't commit new crimes while detained. Not that it matters in this case.

I otherwise fully agree with your sentiments.

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