BART slows rollout of new trains as it contends with more repairs than expected

Post by BurningFrog » Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 9:11 PM UTC

craftyguy wrote: post #87

hyperbovine wrote: post #25

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It’s not really a fair comparison. In terms of where people actually live (the upper two thirds of Sweden is almost empty) its roughly comparable to Ohio: about ten million people clustered in 4 or 5 major cities within a few hours drive distance from each other. Of course it will be easier to provide superior rail service there. This is not so say that Ohio has its act together as far as public transit is concerned…

I think their point is that one city (SF, not the entire US) took 20 years to get trains that Sweden had throughout their country 20 years ago. Their comparison is actually worse for the US than comparing the entire US train system (ha) to Sweden. That's really sad.

Post by mktmkr » Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 9:31 PM UTC

luckydata wrote: post #72

chrischen wrote: post #55

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1) Unless you're going from end-to-end, you're unlikely to do a 60 minute commute on a BART 2) It turned out a lot of BART cameras were fake. https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/Repl... 3) If they got rid of cameras you'd still not be able to use your computer during your commute because you'd almost certainly be robbed within the year if you were to use it every day on the BART for a year. In fac…

That's complete hogwash. It is very common to commute 60 minutes, for example looks like half the workforce at Salesforce lives in Fremont. In the morning the train fills up right at warm springs and gets empty at embarcadero. This legend that Bart is mostly for short rides is just that, a legend. Most people using Bart have pretty long commute from Concord, Dublin and Fremont into the city.

Post by jboles » Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 9:41 PM UTC

BurningFrog wrote: post #92

trebligdivad wrote: post #5

Manchester's Metrolink uses Bombardier M5000's ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_M5000 ) that seem to have worked OK. But I do wonder - is there anyone other than Bombardier who makes tram/underground vehicles these days?

Bart trains are very custom due to them using a track with not used anywhere else in the world, for unknown reasons.

Post by kpU8efre7r » Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 10:36 PM UTC

pmoriarty wrote: post #13

About 20 to 25 years ago, I took a trip from the US (where I'd lived most of my life) to travel around Europe by train, and I was immensely impressed by its far superior train system. The best trains of all the countries I visited were in Sweden, which had trains which were so modern that they seemed like something out of the future, even compared to the best trains I'd seen in the US by that time, Amtrak trains. The…

Post by ggreer » Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 10:56 PM UTC

samstave wrote: post #39

Man, i wish they had included isb power or power outlets on the new cars.