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Border Collie Trained to Recognize 1,022 Nouns Dies

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Re: Border Collie Trained to Recognize 1,022 Nouns Dies

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Post by robbrown451 »

pseudolus wrote: post #6

I hope the publicity surrounding Chaser's passing doesn't inspire unprepared individuals to go out and get a border collie. They are arguably the smartest dog breed and that intelligence is accompanied with a continual need for stimulation that being locked up in a house or, worse yet, an apartment can't provide [0]. A toy lap breed they are not. [0] http://www.vetstreet.com/dogs/border-collie#1_izc4ixoo

True.

I had an English Shepherd, which is a closely related breed, also very smart, and has significantly less need for constant stimulation than border collies. I can't say enough good things about English Shepherds. Still needs exercise and stimulation, just not to the extreme degree of border collies.

http://www.karmatics.com/kyrapics/

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Post by bredren »

pseudolus wrote: post #6

I hope the publicity surrounding Chaser's passing doesn't inspire unprepared individuals to go out and get a border collie. They are arguably the smartest dog breed and that intelligence is accompanied with a continual need for stimulation that being locked up in a house or, worse yet, an apartment can't provide [0]. A toy lap breed they are not. [0] http://www.vetstreet.com/dogs/border-collie#1_izc4ixoo

I hope people consider even deeper that animals with less intelligence have motivation, fear and a variety of feelings in their consciousness. And that they deserve respect simply by virtue of their existence.

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Post by NeedMoreTea »

WalterBright wrote: post #9

Dogs have been bred for everything else - I wonder how breeding dogs for intelligence would work out.

It's been tried, perhaps indirectly. There was one kennel that got quite famous for breeding police dogs using the best workers - both drug spaniels and German Shepherds. That was shortly after WW2, but by the sixties and seventies they were first choice for about half a dozen or more police forces, including the Met.

No idea if they're still going, but I haven't heard anything of them for ages.

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Post by noir_lord »

pseudolus wrote: post #6

I hope the publicity surrounding Chaser's passing doesn't inspire unprepared individuals to go out and get a border collie. They are arguably the smartest dog breed and that intelligence is accompanied with a continual need for stimulation that being locked up in a house or, worse yet, an apartment can't provide [0]. A toy lap breed they are not. [0] http://www.vetstreet.com/dogs/border-collie#1_izc4ixoo

We had one growing up, she was lovely but a complete handful, basically trained herself though, fetch took about a minute for her to figure out.

She used to fetch her bowl and whack your knee if you had tea and she wanted some, runt of the litter (though she grew up normal size) and endless energy.

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Post by beatgammit »

pseudolus wrote: post #6

I hope the publicity surrounding Chaser's passing doesn't inspire unprepared individuals to go out and get a border collie. They are arguably the smartest dog breed and that intelligence is accompanied with a continual need for stimulation that being locked up in a house or, worse yet, an apartment can't provide [0]. A toy lap breed they are not. [0] http://www.vetstreet.com/dogs/border-collie#1_izc4ixoo

I've wanted one for years, but I'm just not in a place where I can properly care for them. I don't even think I can handle a less intelligent dog, since my spare time is taken up with hobbies, my spouse, and my young children, none of which want to consistently care for a dog.

I think far too many people aren't aware of just how much work taking good care of a dog is. I'm grateful for some co-workers that explained the time needed to properly care for a dog, which helped me realize it wasn't going to be a good fit for me.

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Post by noir_lord »

NeedMoreTea wrote: post #13
WalterBright wrote: post #9

Dogs have been bred for everything else - I wonder how breeding dogs for intelligence would work out.

It's been tried, perhaps indirectly. There was one kennel that got quite famous for breeding police dogs using the best workers - both drug spaniels and German Shepherds. That was shortly after WW2, but by the sixties and seventies they were first choice for about half a dozen or more police forces, including the Met. No idea if they're still going, but I haven't heard anything of them for ages.

Belgian Malinois as well, similar breed bit lighter but incredbily fast, agile and smart, used by militaries around the world.

Re: Border Collie Trained to Recognize 1,022 Nouns Dies

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Post by the_duke »

robbrown451 wrote: post #2

If you hit the NYT paywall, at the very least watch the YouTube video that is linked on the page: https://youtu.be/J982KYWohT8 (it's from 2013) Yeah, there's some science. But mostly, just an incredibly sweet story. Dr. Pilly, Chaser's owner, died last year at 89. Chaser also lived a long, happy life.

The paywall is easily circumvented by opening a private window.

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Post by NeedMoreTea »

noir_lord wrote: post #16
NeedMoreTea wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been tried, perhaps indirectly. There was one kennel that got quite famous for breeding police dogs using the best workers - both drug spaniels and German Shepherds. That was shortly after WW2, but by the sixties and seventies they were first choice for about half a dozen or more police forces, including the Met. No idea if they're still going, but I haven't heard anything of them for ages.

Belgian Malinois as well, similar breed bit lighter but incredbily fast, agile and smart, used by militaries around the world.

Aye, it was more that for a spell their shepherds were first choice for many forces over anyone else's shepherds, anywhere, and they had a permanent waiting list.

Can't, for the life of me, remember the name of the kennel though.

Malis seem to be becoming more popular as police dogs too, as there's so many hip problems in shepherds.

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Post by DanielShaffen »

jjtheblunt wrote: post #8
pseudolus wrote: post #4

Chaser also has a Wikipedia page [0]. There are also innumerable videos about her on Youtube. Beautiful and intelligent animal that, as her trainer Dr. John Pilley has said, certainly should cause us to view dogs as emotional and intelligent with their own world view. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaser_(dog)

Not meant obnoxiously, but i wonder if the cruel people torturing dogs in Asia (multiple countries) give a shit. I think, as a born westerner, culturally, I grew up around all sorts of animals and always thought they're smart but underappreciated.

Lol at the dog eating down voters. Sick third world fucks.
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