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Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us

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So you are following your own advice, fighting in the streets against the Trump Regime ?

Obviously I think the Trump Administration is terrible, but do you really think it is at the level of Iran or North Korea? Please. If it was, I would be willing to die for liberty, absolutely.

bitch please.

you're not even brave enough to post on HN with your true identity.

Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us

#92
post #61

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GitLab.com is hosted in the US. The GitLab on prem software can be hosted wherever the hell you want

Can you get GitLab on-prem if you're in a sanctioned country though, or is GitLab also not allowed to let you download it if that's where you're located?

Since at its core it's free software, you can download it from wherever you want.

Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us

#93
post #57

Iran is under US sanctions, I wouldn't expect Iranians to have access to services from any US company. It sucks, but that's the whole point of sanctions.

So there should be no protest then ? Of course it is the point of sanctions. But this is also why sanctions are wrong. As Ron Paul repeatedly said, sanctions are akin to war. Shouldn‘t one protest the bombing of cities because „that‘s the whole point of war“

There's no way to punish a government without punishing the country. The sanctions are not on the people themselves, for instance Iranians can and do visit the US.

Iranians and US citizens should protest against their governments causing this political situation. From my limited research, neither party is innocent. Bothering GitHub doesn't have a purpose, they are only blocking Iranians to comply with laws.

Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us

#94
post #61

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Can you get GitLab on-prem if you're in a sanctioned country though, or is GitLab also not allowed to let you download it if that's where you're located?

Since at its core it's free software, you can download it from wherever you want.

But since US companies are forced to geo-restrict, how can you verify that the (free) software you've downloaded, is actually the free software offered by those companies?

Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us

#95
post #94

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Since at its core it's free software, you can download it from wherever you want.

But since US companies are forced to geo-restrict, how can you verify that the (free) software you've downloaded, is actually the free software offered by those companies?

With their signatures, commit hashes and distribution networks you trust (such as distro maintainers, for instance).

You most likely already do that without any sanctions that affect you.

Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us

#98
post #36

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no they dont

Does the US law say that the repos should be revoked with no notice, or that a zip of the code can not be sent when revoking access?

if the law says you need to stop doing business with Iran, then yes.

Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us

#99
post #3

Recent discussion "GitHub and Trade Controls" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20526039 and "My GitHub account has been restricted due to US sanctions as I live in Crimea" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20531039 And related "How is it like to be a dev in Iran" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20493699 > let us download our private repositories and also make them public (setting control). Seems reasonabl…

>It's US law and GitHub (Microsoft) is bound by it. That seems like a terrible situation. What if tomorrow there's a US law that Maybe they should fork into GitHub US, GitHub EU and so on.

If the law is believed to be unconstitutional, a US company can fight it in court. Otherwise, the company is required to comply with all laws applicable in the jurisdictions they operate. If there is a conflict, the US law has highest authority.

In this case, if GitHub EU is owned by Microsoft, a US company, GitHub EU still must follow US rules. On the flip side, while GitHub EU must follow GDPR, GitHub US would not be required to do so.

Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us

#100
post #52
post #7

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Why would you call it either ignorant or baffling? Do you expect Iranian users to have a deep understanding of American export laws and the political intricacies that might follow from Microsoft's acquisition? This is an completely understandable reaction regarding Github's block against Iranian accounts. Github as been around for over 10 years, and this never happened before.

I'm not talking about understanding USA law, and couldn't care less. People, developers especially, should know something about the licenses they're using. Anyways, any company will have to comply with the law. I guess Microsoft in its war against Free Software managed to sow confusion. Free Software and Open Source are about licenses, not hosting services. How would they react, if for example, Microsoft/GitHub will…

War against open source? They’re the largest corporate contributor to open source, they’ve open sourced a ton of projects, including XAML and .NET Core (which is also now cross platform), and they joined the Open Source Initiative. If you honestly believe 2019 Microsoft is anti-open source, you’re living in the past.
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