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Meal timing strategies appear to lower appetite, improve fat burning

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Re: Meal timing strategies appear to lower appetite, improve fat burning

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Just another anecdote, and I haven't done this for too long, but I've found that adopting the rule that I don't eat past 7pm has helped me sleep better, and maybe even lose a little weight. I found myself eating more earlier in the day so that I wouldn't be hungry later, but that didn't seem to change the benefits.

The hardest bit is that it can be pretty hard to get an evening meal in before 7 (we do try to cook), and if its after, I pack the dinner for the next day's lunch and sit down with the fam to chat while they eat.

Re: Meal timing strategies appear to lower appetite, improve fat burning

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> hunger is just another feeling Exactly! I've done intermittent fasting for many many years, it works for me. I've told people, "You know how a workout 'hurts so good'? Learn to think that way about hunger/cravings. Consider it the same way you would consider a workout pain, as progress not punishment".

This can work for people who don't really need a lot of weight loss. Obese people are too deeply conditioned, their brains are wired differently and their bodies probably not responding on the hormonal level the same way as yours. To them it's a bit like suggesting a drug addict to just enjoy the withdrawal crisis. According to this research: "a substantial fraction of obese individuals exhibit an imbalance between a…

Yeah but they hint at the reason

> Certain foods, particularly those rich in sugars and fat, are potent rewards [23] that promote eating (even in the absence of an energetic requirement)

If the subjects are used to carb- and sugar-heavy diet, the hormonal spikes will be very stressful on the body.

They also mention fat-heavy foods, but I suspect they are referring to foods high on both fat+sugars, not a green salad with copious amounts of olive oil.

Re: Meal timing strategies appear to lower appetite, improve fat burning

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Are you sure your diet did not change? Even your portions stayed the same size?

Can't speak for OP, but my appetite and then weight have steadily decreased for six years since beginning CPAP. As a person with apnea I had no idea that my constant fatigue was causing me to eat so much, or making sustained exercise so impossible, and I really didn't even understand how tired I was. Once I was getting something approximating a good night's sleep, I had more energy, which made me less hungry and more…

I've gained 15 pounds since I started using one..bummed

Re: Meal timing strategies appear to lower appetite, improve fat burning

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> For the study, researchers enrolled 11 adult men and women who had excess weight. It's amazing how low our standard for news is when it comes to things like weight loss.

Depending on the size of the effect, 11 participants can be very valid in an experiment. For example, assume you have 11 participants having a hormone measured after an experiment. If normal readings are 300 with a SD of 30, and at the end of the experiment their mean is 520 with a SD of 40, then you've just shown a strong, significant effect.

Re: Meal timing strategies appear to lower appetite, improve fat burning

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To add my strictly anecdotal experience: I recently started to diet for the first time ever. Never really needed it, but getting older, I noticed my weight steadily increasing despite regular exercise and finally decided to change. I always skipped breakfast, but I became a bit more strict about timing and snacking at night in order to align with IF. Switched my diet to a lazy keto (basically adkins) diet - still don…

Depending on how heavy you were lifting, you should be able to get back to your old strength by dropping the weight significantly and working back up to it over a few months (maybe do something like Starting Strength).

Re: Meal timing strategies appear to lower appetite, improve fat burning

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I’ll add one more anecdote to the mix here. Been doing intermittent fasting and extended fasting since February and I’m down 75 pounds in that time. I used to snore like crazy, probably had sleep apnea but was too afraid to go get tested since my grandmother died from becoming dependent on the machine and her lungs failed. Now I don’t snore at all. My wife sleeps better, I sleep better; win win! I haven’t exercised a…

I've been doing IF and LCHF for a few months now too. Previously, I only did Keto (no IF) and lost 70 pounds but later put some back on.

The biggest benefit to me from IF isn't the weight loss, it's the increased energy level. I don't know how it works, but I have way more energy, consistently, after routinely fasting.

Re: Meal timing strategies appear to lower appetite, improve fat burning

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I’ll add one more anecdote to the mix here. Been doing intermittent fasting and extended fasting since February and I’m down 75 pounds in that time. I used to snore like crazy, probably had sleep apnea but was too afraid to go get tested since my grandmother died from becoming dependent on the machine and her lungs failed. Now I don’t snore at all. My wife sleeps better, I sleep better; win win! I haven’t exercised a…

I'm curious to know what your starting weight was and what is your goal weight is, if it's not too personal.

Re: Meal timing strategies appear to lower appetite, improve fat burning

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I'm never hungry when I wake up, but I think that's mostly just a habit thing. Your body adjusts to expect food on a schedule, if you normally eat on a schedule. I only eat lunch (at noon) and dinner (at 8pm), pretty much like clockwork. It's very rare that I eat outside of these times during the work week. I don't snack through the work day, and I very seldom snack at home on work evenings. But I still end up eating…

> I didn't have any problem sticking with my normal 60kg weight until I got over 35 or so, now I'm up to 70kg Yeah, I put on 10 kg as well once I hit 33. I don't know what happened, everything I've read said your metabolism doesn't slow down until much later, but I exercise more and eat less than I used to, yet I put on a bunch of weight that I can't easily lose. I'd love to figure out why that is, but I can't find a…

> Yeah, I put on 10 kg as well once I hit 33. I don't know what happened, everything I've read said your metabolism doesn't slow down until much later

I remained trim eating 4000ish calories a day of junk food from about age 15 to age 22 or so. Attempted to crash diet to a strict 1400 calories a day to make my comes-and-goes six-pack a bit more permanent. Kept it up for about two months. Nothing (more or less) happened. Stopped since it wasn't working. Promptly put on ten pounds. Have struggled to keep my weight under control ever since.

Metabolisms are weird.

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