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Meal timing strategies appear to lower appetite, improve fat burning

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Re: Meal timing strategies appear to lower appetite, improve fat burning

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Post by benjaminbrodie »

qwsxyh wrote: post #43
zmmmmm wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it honestly surprising that I see it so much on HN. You have a group of people who largely identify themselves as being rational, objective, intelligent people - datascientists, engineers, etc. - who stereotypically I would think to be naturally sceptical and want to examine evidence closely. But it's absolutely true, the minute some scientific study is posted there are 50 people writing comments that they bel…

It's because HN users aren't really that intelligent; they just give off that impression instead. We're all mostly normal people here, and act like normal people. This isn't some special club of 1000x geniuses.

Even if this is true, each of us has a moral obligation to believe the very opposite re: ourselves.

Re: Meal timing strategies appear to lower appetite, improve fat burning

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Post by tonymet »

iamgopal wrote: post #89
tonymet wrote: post #85

I've lost 80 lbs from peak and kept it off for > 15 years without trying. Never gained more than 5 lbs since losing the weight. I've never dieted or restricted my diet. I eat when I have a desire to eat. I eat so called junk food and bad food (butter, olive oil, bacon, meat, fatty nuts, whole milk/half-half) daily. I generally avoid high sugar dishes and rarely drink soda but that's due to taste. In my experience the…

This is the conclusion I also reached, I'm also eating whatever I want but not whenever I want, instead when there is a hunger. I'm just couple of months in, but still consistently loosing about kg in ten days easily.

awesome work. trust me getting control over eating will be one of the most liberating feelings in the world. and your discipline will spill over into other aspects of life--it becomes quite empowering.

Re: Meal timing strategies appear to lower appetite, improve fat burning

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Post by tonymet »

tonymet wrote: post #85

I've lost 80 lbs from peak and kept it off for > 15 years without trying. Never gained more than 5 lbs since losing the weight. I've never dieted or restricted my diet. I eat when I have a desire to eat. I eat so called junk food and bad food (butter, olive oil, bacon, meat, fatty nuts, whole milk/half-half) daily. I generally avoid high sugar dishes and rarely drink soda but that's due to taste. In my experience the…

I forgot to mention that I do have dessert daily usually a home made cookie or cake which is less sweet than the store bought sweets.

Re: Meal timing strategies appear to lower appetite, improve fat burning

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Post by johnchristopher »

betenoire wrote: post #49
yurishimo wrote: post #46

I’ll add one more anecdote to the mix here. Been doing intermittent fasting and extended fasting since February and I’m down 75 pounds in that time. I used to snore like crazy, probably had sleep apnea but was too afraid to go get tested since my grandmother died from becoming dependent on the machine and her lungs failed. Now I don’t snore at all. My wife sleeps better, I sleep better; win win! I haven’t exercised a…

> hunger is just another feeling Exactly! I've done intermittent fasting for many many years, it works for me. I've told people, "You know how a workout 'hurts so good'? Learn to think that way about hunger/cravings. Consider it the same way you would consider a workout pain, as progress not punishment".

I am concerned about how your post and other answers to it read like pro-ana slogans.

Re: Meal timing strategies appear to lower appetite, improve fat burning

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Post by johnchristopher »

yurishimo wrote: post #46

I’ll add one more anecdote to the mix here. Been doing intermittent fasting and extended fasting since February and I’m down 75 pounds in that time. I used to snore like crazy, probably had sleep apnea but was too afraid to go get tested since my grandmother died from becoming dependent on the machine and her lungs failed. Now I don’t snore at all. My wife sleeps better, I sleep better; win win! I haven’t exercised a…

> I used to snore like crazy, probably had sleep apnea but was too afraid to go get tested since my grandmother died from becoming dependent on the machine and her lungs failed.

Wait, what ? Could you expand on that ?

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Post by tom_ »

barking wrote: post #50
yurishimo wrote: post #46

I’ll add one more anecdote to the mix here. Been doing intermittent fasting and extended fasting since February and I’m down 75 pounds in that time. I used to snore like crazy, probably had sleep apnea but was too afraid to go get tested since my grandmother died from becoming dependent on the machine and her lungs failed. Now I don’t snore at all. My wife sleeps better, I sleep better; win win! I haven’t exercised a…

Well done, 75 lbs (or 5 stone, 5 pounds in real money) is incredible.

Note for UK people: this is 5.35714 stone, or 5 stone and 2.27 kg.

Re: Meal timing strategies appear to lower appetite, improve fat burning

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Post by lisper »

betenoire wrote: post #49
yurishimo wrote: post #46

I’ll add one more anecdote to the mix here. Been doing intermittent fasting and extended fasting since February and I’m down 75 pounds in that time. I used to snore like crazy, probably had sleep apnea but was too afraid to go get tested since my grandmother died from becoming dependent on the machine and her lungs failed. Now I don’t snore at all. My wife sleeps better, I sleep better; win win! I haven’t exercised a…

> hunger is just another feeling Exactly! I've done intermittent fasting for many many years, it works for me. I've told people, "You know how a workout 'hurts so good'? Learn to think that way about hunger/cravings. Consider it the same way you would consider a workout pain, as progress not punishment".

> "You know how a workout 'hurts so good'? Learn to think that way about hunger/cravings. Consider it the same way you would consider a workout pain, as progress not punishment".

Another way to look at it that I've found effective: think of food cravings as an adversarial agent. Your body is blackmailing you: if you give me food, I'll make this craving go away. Trick is, the food you're probably craving -- chips, soda -- don't make the craving go away. They make it worse. Once you notice that you're body doesn't actually make good on its promises to make the cravings stop it's easier to not give in to its demands. And that actually makes the cravings stop. It's no different than dealing with any other bully.

Re: Meal timing strategies appear to lower appetite, improve fat burning

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Post by fouc »

electriclove wrote: post #77
yurishimo wrote: post #46

I’ll add one more anecdote to the mix here. Been doing intermittent fasting and extended fasting since February and I’m down 75 pounds in that time. I used to snore like crazy, probably had sleep apnea but was too afraid to go get tested since my grandmother died from becoming dependent on the machine and her lungs failed. Now I don’t snore at all. My wife sleeps better, I sleep better; win win! I haven’t exercised a…

Are you ingesting anything besides water during your 7 day fast? Coffee? Tea? Vitamins? I'm interested in doing something like this.

With fasting you generally want to take to take some salt. Any time you feel dizzy or nauseous that's basically an indicator that you're lacking some electrolytes. I usually take a bit of table salt or sea salt on the edge of a spoon and then wash it down with water.

Warning: Don't take too much salt all at once, because that can trigger a regurgitation..

Re: Meal timing strategies appear to lower appetite, improve fat burning

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Post by ivanhoe »

betenoire wrote: post #49
yurishimo wrote: post #46

I’ll add one more anecdote to the mix here. Been doing intermittent fasting and extended fasting since February and I’m down 75 pounds in that time. I used to snore like crazy, probably had sleep apnea but was too afraid to go get tested since my grandmother died from becoming dependent on the machine and her lungs failed. Now I don’t snore at all. My wife sleeps better, I sleep better; win win! I haven’t exercised a…

> hunger is just another feeling Exactly! I've done intermittent fasting for many many years, it works for me. I've told people, "You know how a workout 'hurts so good'? Learn to think that way about hunger/cravings. Consider it the same way you would consider a workout pain, as progress not punishment".

This can work for people who don't really need a lot of weight loss. Obese people are too deeply conditioned, their brains are wired differently and their bodies probably not responding on the hormonal level the same way as yours. To them it's a bit like suggesting a drug addict to just enjoy the withdrawal crisis. According to this research: "a substantial fraction of obese individuals exhibit an imbalance between an enhanced sensitivity of the reward circuitry to conditioned stimuli linked to energy-dense food and impaired function of the executive control circuitry that weakens inhibitory control over appetitive behaviors" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3124340/
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