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Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us

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Post by danogentili »

badtakemaybe wrote: post #37

The US is not going to lift these restrictions. Why would they? If you live in these terrible places, I’m sorry, but you need to start fighting at home. I don’t know enough about your specific situations or what level of action you should take, but everything from peaceful protest to armed rebellion are options. Yes, you might have to die. You might be killed just for peaceful protest or if you’re government suspects…

And by what logic exactly does the US have the right to "push for freedom" in foreign countries?

Why do people from such countries have to doubly suffer, because not one but two governments are fucking them up?

Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us

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Post by onyva »

akrulino wrote: post #7
onyva wrote: post #2

Why are these people assuming GitHub is some sort of an open source authority. Is it so difficult to understand it’s a company that hosts free and open source projects like any other service? The ignorance is just baffling.

Why would you call it either ignorant or baffling? Do you expect Iranian users to have a deep understanding of American export laws and the political intricacies that might follow from Microsoft's acquisition? This is an completely understandable reaction regarding Github's block against Iranian accounts. Github as been around for over 10 years, and this never happened before.

I'm not talking about understanding USA law, and couldn't care less. People, developers especially, should know something about the licenses they're using. Anyways, any company will have to comply with the law. I guess Microsoft in its war against Free Software managed to sow confusion. Free Software and Open Source are about licenses, not hosting services. How would they react, if for example, Microsoft/GitHub will stop hosting Open Source projects for free?

BTW, this is why I deleted my account at GitHub the day the purchase was announced.

Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us

#53

Post by markovbot »

mc32 wrote: post #27
antoinevg wrote: post #21

Looks like it's time to migrate the rest of my stuff off US-based hosts. Today Iran, tomorrow who knows? Far easier to take a couple days to move my stuff now than having to do it under duress in a year or two.

They only block really antagonistic regimes which don’t comply with UN and other international sanctions. It has to be a really rogue regime that threatens regional or world peace.

For now. There is absolutely no reason to suspect that won't change in the future.

Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us

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Post by onyva »

sanderjd wrote: post #18
edejong wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Github owned by Github. But this is something different. It is Github owned by Microsoft. Acquisitions, in general, do not end well for the established user-base. Suggestion: move you repositories! Host your own repositories! Use something different, like Gerrit, to spice up your development! Take matters in your own hand! Own your data, own your compute!

Is there something about this that I've missed that has something to do with the Microsoft acquisition? The same laws would have governed GitHub if they hadn't been acquired.

From an Open Source developer point of view, yes, of course. Open Source projects should not be hosted with them. Period. It completely betrays the spirit of the licenses the code is released under, which guarantees access to anyone, regardless of political, religious, etc.

Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us

#56

Post by bijant »

badtakemaybe wrote: post #37

The US is not going to lift these restrictions. Why would they? If you live in these terrible places, I’m sorry, but you need to start fighting at home. I don’t know enough about your specific situations or what level of action you should take, but everything from peaceful protest to armed rebellion are options. Yes, you might have to die. You might be killed just for peaceful protest or if you’re government suspects…

So you are following your own advice, fighting in the streets against the Trump Regime ?

Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us

#57

Post by bijant »

nullwasamistake wrote: post #17

Iran is under US sanctions, I wouldn't expect Iranians to have access to services from any US company. It sucks, but that's the whole point of sanctions.

So there should be no protest then ? Of course it is the point of sanctions. But this is also why sanctions are wrong. As Ron Paul repeatedly said, sanctions are akin to war. Shouldn‘t one protest the bombing of cities because „that‘s the whole point of war“

Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us

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Post by mc32 »

markovbot wrote: post #53
mc32 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They only block really antagonistic regimes which don’t comply with UN and other international sanctions. It has to be a really rogue regime that threatens regional or world peace.

For now. There is absolutely no reason to suspect that won't change in the future.

Is there a jurisdiction which doesn’t have such suspicion? The 1A can weather a lot and carries a lot of weight. Obviously in this case the government has carve-outs for these things but I suspect other jurisdictions have bigger carve-outs.

Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us

#59

Post by snthd »

badtakemaybe wrote: post #37

The US is not going to lift these restrictions. Why would they? If you live in these terrible places, I’m sorry, but you need to start fighting at home. I don’t know enough about your specific situations or what level of action you should take, but everything from peaceful protest to armed rebellion are options. Yes, you might have to die. You might be killed just for peaceful protest or if you’re government suspects…

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9ta...

> The 1953 Iranian coup d'état, known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup d'état (Persian: کودتای ۲۸ مرداد‎), was the overthrow of the democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh in favour of strengthening the monarchical rule of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi on 19 August 1953, orchestrated by the United States (under the name TPAJAX Project or "Operation Ajax") and the United Kingdom (under the name "Operation Boot"). It was the first covert action of the United States to overthrow a foreign government during peacetime.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Revolution

> The Iranian Revolution (Persian: انقلاب ایران‎, romanized: Enqelābe Irān;), also known as the Islamic Revolution or the 1979 Revolution, was a series of events that involved the overthrow of the last monarch of Iran, Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi, and the replacement of his government with an Islamic republic under the Grand Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, a leader of one of the factions in the revolt. The movement against the United States-backed monarchy was supported by various leftist and Islamist organizations and student movements.

Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us

#60

Post by bijant »

As someone of Iranian Heritage, even though I‘ve never been to Iran, because my Father fled the country after beeing sentenced to death twice, for fighting the Mullah Regime, the Ignorance and total lack of emphaty for Iranian Devs and Open-Source contributors displayed in this thread is shocking to me. People who have nothing to do with politics and are already suffering under crippling economic sanctions as well under their own government are apparently not considered to be part of the „community“. Giving them the „helpful“ advise to „fight“ their government even though there is currently no active opposition in Iran and every increase in tensions is making the majority of the population stand more firmly behind their government is just insane.

Can‘t you see that the people asking for support are not „enemies of america“ but instead people who consider the Trump administrations policies to be an abberation, non-representative of the will of the american people, who they consider to be their friends and Open-Source-Community Brothers ?

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