Looks like it's time to migrate the rest of my stuff off US-based hosts.
Today Iran, tomorrow who knows?
Far easier to take a couple days to move my stuff now than having to do it under duress in a year or two.
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Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us
#22Why are these people assuming GitHub is some sort of an open source authority. Is it so difficult to understand it’s a company that hosts free and open source projects like any other service? The ignorance is just baffling.
These devs are stuck in a tough situation and your first reaction is to sneer and insult them?
The complete lack of basic empathy is just baffling.
Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us
#23Microsoft banned all Iranian users. And crimea if I recall correctly.
Financial support of open source is a nice thing, but folding open source into the world of US political choas seems so wrong.
I for one will be moving my projects elsewhere. Not sure where yet, probably a bitbucket server.
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#24This is incredibly dumb. Hopefully some GitHub exec intervenes. Edit: Happy to take the karma hit. Stupid is stupid, regardless of jurisdiction and consequences.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Intervenes? Where? In white house?
Negotiating with a non-US entity for as smooth a mirror as possible? Not sure, but resistance to stupidity isn't futile.
While I’ve no familiarity with the law in this area, I’d imagine this is surely still illegal too? If one could just openly pass the business to a foreign partner it would somewhat defeat the purpose of sanctions.
Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us
#26This is incredibly dumb. Hopefully some GitHub exec intervenes. Edit: Happy to take the karma hit. Stupid is stupid, regardless of jurisdiction and consequences.
What are they supposed to? Management buyout and relocation to Switzerland?
Is it really an option? Is Switzerland free to not accept sanctions on Iran by America?
Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us
#27Looks like it's time to migrate the rest of my stuff off US-based hosts. Today Iran, tomorrow who knows? Far easier to take a couple days to move my stuff now than having to do it under duress in a year or two.
They only block really antagonistic regimes which don’t comply with UN and other international sanctions. It has to be a really rogue regime that threatens regional or world peace.
Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us
#28Why are these people assuming GitHub is some sort of an open source authority. Is it so difficult to understand it’s a company that hosts free and open source projects like any other service? The ignorance is just baffling.
Why would you call it either ignorant or baffling? Do you expect Iranian users to have a deep understanding of American export laws and the political intricacies that might follow from Microsoft's acquisition? This is an completely understandable reaction regarding Github's block against Iranian accounts. Github as been around for over 10 years, and this never happened before.
> Do you expect Iranian users to have a deep understanding of American export laws
No, but I expect them to at least understand ONE law, since the sanctions affect their country significantly and their politicians talk non-stop about it.
> might follow from Microsoft's acquisition?
This has nothing to do with MSFT. GitHub has always been a US-based company.
> Github as been around for over 10 years, and this never happened before
Because GitHub hadn't been following the law before.
Re: GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restricted. Please support us
#29This is well within GitHub's Account ToS in Section B 3.6. [0] so all GitHub users who are part of the US sanctioned countries list [1] are banned from having an account. Since Microsoft/GitHub are all US based companies, they must comply with US export laws and I'm afraid not even GH/Microsoft staff can intervene in this.
I don't know what to think about this 'message to GitHub' since they can't do anything about this, but I think that migrating off of GitHub and lessening or completely removing our dependence on the service is probably better for those developers and for open-source in general.
[0] https://help.github.com/en/articles/github-terms-of-service#...
[1] https://help.github.com/en/articles/github-and-trade-control...
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#30So where is GitLab hosted? Would they be under the same restriction?
GitLab is a US company. Although you can self host an instance wherever you want.