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The Library Card Project: The Ease of Forming Anonymous Companies in the U.S.

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Post by pvg »

Spooky23 wrote: post #183
codesnik wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it is really interesting that in US and countries like that where voter fraud is relatively easy it's almost nonexistant, but in Russia, for example (where you need your passport to vote and where you can't vote just anywhere, but on a particular station in the region you have a stamp of residence in your passport, and yeah, there's a list of voters everywhere, in advance)... Well, bussing exist there. Buses with "vo…

Where voter fraud happens it isn’t random people deciding to vote 3 times. Why would anyone bother? Actual vote fraud is about political machinery. Now in the US the real election shenanigans are much cheaper and more effective... the big pools of black money and gerrymandering are the tools of modern political machines.

That's not called 'voter fraud' though - 'voter fraud' is a more narrowly specific term than 'election fraud' and 'election shenanigans'.

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Post by xbmcuser »

manigandham wrote: post #196
xbmcuser wrote: post #81

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In most countries where an id is a requirement for voting they have systems in place where you can easily get a national id card. In the US Republicans make it as hard as possible for poor people to get an id then are asking to make it mandatory as they are aware most poor people don't vote for them. If they want to enforce id checking for voting then they need to make sure people can easily get an id.

Difficulty should not overrule importance when it comes to federal elections. > " need to make sure people can easily get an id" I agree. I don't think it's as simple or generic as a single political party preventing it though. Is there a clear example of what is stopping people from obtaining these IDs?

When a single political party has the most involvement in curtailing voting hours number of voting booths the opening hours when a person is able to get an id etc. Then it paints a picture. Though I agree its not as simple as that and there are multiple reasons apart from the above but the major reason is the peoples distrust of the government in the US which results in inadequate funding to fix the above problems.

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Post by drbojingle »

quartz wrote: post #66
drbojingle wrote: post #25

Great, I'll get my kids corporations for their 7th birthday.

This could actually be a really fun project to do with your child. It's a pretty inexpensive way to teach them about how companies work, the basics of organization, and even introduce them to the idea of taxes. Registering a simple company in your local state, issuing stock, designating your board, doing your meetings and minutes, filing your $0 tax return, then dissolving it would probably only cost you ~$100 - $200…

Yea that was my thought process as well. First idea was to use Stripe Atlas. https://stripe.com/en-ca/atlas. Costs more than your estimate but seems pretty turn key and it's a good segway in to building simple web applications and hosting them on product hunt.

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Post by Teever »

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #18

Went to rent a mailbox at the UPS Store. My drivers license and passport weren't enough identification. I needed something additional. The owner suggested I get a library card and then he could rent me the mailbox. What did the library accept as identification? My drivers license. That was all. Seemed like a weird little bit of bureaucratic red tape that accomplished pretty much nothing.

My personal favourite: Needing to show your drivers license to pick up your passport.

Talk about a Kafkaesque hole in one.

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Post by tinus_hn »

dfeojm-zlib wrote: post #31

Here's an example of what you need for a Delaware C-corp: https://www.incnow.com/delaware-corporation/ - Name of the corporation - Name and address of the Registered Agent of the corporation (usually a mail forwarding service) - Statement of the type of business that the corporation will engage in - Number of shares of authorized stock that the corporation will issue - Par value of each share - Name and signature of…

On the other hand, if a library card allows you to borrow books, it is a form of credit. It does make sense to keep track who you are extending credit to, right?

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Post by CPLX »

mieseratte wrote: post #132
CPLX wrote: post #95

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> If you do not do this then the enforcement mechanism is that when you get sued, then a court can take back the corporate veil perk of your llc (llc is void so it turns into a sole proprietorship I think) and go after your personal assets if you loose a lawsuit. This is a common misconception. In real life there is no actual penalty for not placing the ads. In the event you’re challenged on it, the deficiency could…

> It is, in fact, a special interest giveaway to some local publications, but there’s no teeth to the law. So you have to hope no one wants to come after you? What would happen if this were actually in court? Overturned for lack of enforcement?

It has actually been in court.

The deficiency can be remedied by publication and it’s fully retroactive.

So there are literally no consequences at all to ignoring it.

https://eminutes.com/what-happens-if-you-ignore-new-york%E2%...

https://www.newyorksmallbusinesslaw.com/new_york_small_busin...

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Post by deogeo »

baddox wrote: post #189
deogeo wrote: post #94

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Democracy is also an expression of self-determination of a people. Meaning they don't have to let anyone who visits their country sway their decisions.

Who decides what “a people” is? You have a bunch of people in a geographic region, and some of those people get to decide that they are “the people” and that only they get to vote? Sounds pretty blatantly undemocratic.

> a bunch of people in a geographic region

You make it sound as if they just happened to wind up there at random, and have nothing else in common.

Geographic proximity is incidental to belonging to a group. The land they live on is merely one of their possessions. Allowing visitors does not mean they must share their sovereignty with them.

To answer your question, in democracies, each person can vote to influence their own nation - their demos, even while abroad. You think demos should be decided purely on current location, but most countries disagree - they use mostly jus sanguinis, with the exception of jus soli in the Americas.

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Post by elliekelly »

Animats wrote: post #200
elliekelly wrote: post #61

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At first I thought, this makes no sense. Why would the Patriot Act care more about who's getting a library card than incorporating when the dirty money is obviously flowing through the entity? And then I realized, the government gets all of the ID information they need about the corporation the moment the entity needs to open a bank account. ID not just for the single corporator, but information about all of the offi…

And then I realized, the government gets all of the ID information they need about the corporation the moment the entity needs to open a bank account. Only if the corporation has a US bank account. A Cayman Islands bank account, not so much. There's too much tolerance of anonymous corporations. In California, it is a criminal misdemeanor to ask for a credit card number on line before the actual name and address of th…

> Only if the corporation has a US bank account. A Cayman Islands bank account, not so much.

Yes but usually the purpose of the nefarious shell companies is to “anonymously” transfer the proceeds of illegal activities to the Cayman Islands. A drug lord or a terrorist can’t just wire the money from their own account.

It’s a moot point anyway. C-Corps aren’t the primary vehicle for laundering money anymore, trusts are. Usually a trust with one or more shell corporations or LLCs as trustee.

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Post by deogeo »

tinus_hn wrote: post #215
dfeojm-zlib wrote: post #31

Here's an example of what you need for a Delaware C-corp: https://www.incnow.com/delaware-corporation/ - Name of the corporation - Name and address of the Registered Agent of the corporation (usually a mail forwarding service) - Statement of the type of business that the corporation will engage in - Number of shares of authorized stock that the corporation will issue - Par value of each share - Name and signature of…

On the other hand, if a library card allows you to borrow books, it is a form of credit. It does make sense to keep track who you are extending credit to, right?

They could easily accept a cash deposit, and let you borrow books up to the value of that deposit. Perfectly anonymous.

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Post by benjaminbrodie »

droithomme wrote: post #171
phendrenad2 wrote: post #125

Interesting historical tidbit: Many libraries had very lax requirements for library cards pre-9/11. The PATRIOT Act forced them to collect more information. https://sfpl.org/index.php?pg=2000060501&fullsite=true

Thanks I was wondering when it changed. I got all my library cards for years with no verification and used fake names on all of them.

lol why tho
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