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How is China able to provide enough food to feed over 1B people?

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Re: How is China able to provide enough food to feed over 1B people?

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Post by NicoJuicy »

Inu wrote: post #266

The author's answer to the question 'How do mainland Chinese feel about the protests in Hong Kong on the extradition law amendment?': https://www.quora.com/How-do-mainland-Chinese-feel-about-the...

It's smart propaganda, it's hard to see him changing the subject to supposingly Chinese help ( water, food, ...). Which is actually just trade.

Hong Kong still needs to pay for it, so it's not a gift.

The only reason for Hong Kong to bed an army, is China.

Like I said, smart propaganda. This is 1 guy evolving his comment based on discussion or a team of propaganda employees.

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Post by madez »

pzo wrote: post #288
Inu wrote: post #266

The author's answer to the question 'How do mainland Chinese feel about the protests in Hong Kong on the extradition law amendment?': https://www.quora.com/How-do-mainland-Chinese-feel-about-the...

At the very end author compares hong kong island to langkawi portraying lankgawi as some unatractive island and that hong kongers should be happy they are connected to mainland. This is where I started look more critical at the whole article having been in those islands before myself - it was a great reality check that you have read everything very critically these days. I recommend everyone not only to check google…

I'm majorly surprised you needed to read until the end to figure that out. To me it was and is impossible to read from the beginning without having my propagandometer going off-limits nearly instantly. I wanted to take parts and comment here to substantiate my claim, but the post is too extreme and long. It's obvious. The linked post is outright /r/sino material.

Re: How is China able to provide enough food to feed over 1B people?

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Post by [deleted] »

pvaldes wrote: post #284
intended wrote: post #265

Yeah sorry - that answer is the sort that glosses over a huge amount of facts to present a clean a-b-c dependency tree along side a decent heap of sino philia. So in particular the point on fish farms- fish farms are hard , the fish need many different things to be happy and not sick or affected by parasites. This means medicines, treatment and more - further this is only viable if you have transportation, refrigerat…

> fish farms are hard Yes and no. Some fishes are really, really hard to culture. Other are very forgiving and easy if you know what to do. Aquaculture shaped China since thousands of years. They have a lot of population in part because they have carps. Is a very efficient way to recycle waste in food.

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Re: How is China able to provide enough food to feed over 1B people?

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Post by gbuk2013 »

pzo wrote: post #288
Inu wrote: post #266

The author's answer to the question 'How do mainland Chinese feel about the protests in Hong Kong on the extradition law amendment?': https://www.quora.com/How-do-mainland-Chinese-feel-about-the...

At the very end author compares hong kong island to langkawi portraying lankgawi as some unatractive island and that hong kongers should be happy they are connected to mainland. This is where I started look more critical at the whole article having been in those islands before myself - it was a great reality check that you have read everything very critically these days. I recommend everyone not only to check google…

I would certainly question his advice to go to Malaysia - the Chinese community there has been subjected to increased discrimination over the years.

Re: How is China able to provide enough food to feed over 1B people?

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Post by pteraspidomorph »

leereeves wrote: post #272
fspeech wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are interested in seeing what Tibet is like today (literally) this vlogger is currently travelling through it (some of the farthest corners) in a camper: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJPCo6WJCb0aXShfcDDUffg/vid... This episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2BtvivdbOw may be relevant to how "forced" is used in the original comment. The video shows villagers collecting trash off the sides of a remote high…

What do you mean when you say "since everything is presumably 'forced' there"? If it is forced labor, even if paid, the distinction between forced labor and slavery is trivial compared to the distinction between forced labor and freedom.

And there are other chilling mentions of the government forcing citizens to do things, reeducation camps, and surveillance throughout the article (all listed as good things).

Re: How is China able to provide enough food to feed over 1B people?

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Post by dgellow »

v-yadli wrote: post #273
dgellow wrote: post #270

This quora answer is pure CCP propaganda, why is this post on the HN home page?

Freedom of speech I guess?

That’s irrelevant IMHO. I’m not saying that the link shouldn’t be shared on HN, which would potentially be a matter of freedom of speech. But the HN homepage isn’t a neutral list of links ranked by users, there is a specific algorithm to give visibility to some topics and not others, and admins ultimately decide what is there. For example you can easily see that politically controversial topics are often quickly downgraded from their high rank, if they reach the top. My question is why should a piece full of CCP propaganda (not just facts, they are clearly spun in a CCP friendly narrative) be in the homepage? That’s clearly not what the platform strives for.

Re: How is China able to provide enough food to feed over 1B people?

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Post by dgellow »

edwinyzh wrote: post #287
v-yadli wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Freedom of speech I guess?

Freedom of speech and I guess HN is an international community? On the post, as the author said, seeing is believing. Whether or not it's CCP propaganda, it's facts.

“Seeing is believing” really doesn’t make any sense in the modern world. And facts don’t exist in a vacuum, they are presented with a specific narrative, some are just omitted, some are plain lies (China bringing joy to Tibet population by providing better food, really?).

Re: How is China able to provide enough food to feed over 1B people?

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Post by ryanlol »

Inu wrote: post #266

The author's answer to the question 'How do mainland Chinese feel about the protests in Hong Kong on the extradition law amendment?': https://www.quora.com/How-do-mainland-Chinese-feel-about-the...

>Small countries like Singapore, Israel, South Korea, and Finland have compulsory military services or civil services for more than two years

What a strange, unnecessary lie.

Re: How is China able to provide enough food to feed over 1B people?

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Post by kortilla »

lappet wrote: post #223
rayiner wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The answers below are misleading by omission. While being on a river delta makes for fertile land, Bangladesh was nowhere near food independent a few decades ago. It was made so due to modern crop varieties and modern farming methods: > During the last two decades and a half, important changes occurred in the realm of rice production and profitability. First, the cost of producing rice is several times higher than po…

You raise a very good point about the increase in yield, but the reason Bangladesh has so many people in the first place is the fertile land. The lack of self-sufficiency in recent times may be due to the famines caused during the British Raj era.

No, that’s not possible because of population growth.
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