they should just mail a library card to everyone who is entitled to it? or maybe just check your id when you try to borrow a book
The Library Card Project: The Ease of Forming Anonymous Companies in the U.S.
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Re: The Library Card Project: The Ease of Forming Anonymous Companies in the U.S.
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
To the contrary: There were only four known cases of voter fraud in the 2016 elections[0]; more stringent voting requirements suppresses voting, especially by poor, black and/or Latinx voters.[1] It certainly seems the case that more damage has been done to society via corporations to which no human person can be associated than by voter fraud. [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/12/01/0-... [1] h…
In [current year], arguably every US citizen should have some form of photo ID. It's pretty useful for a lot more than just voting. For example, more and more banks / financial institutions are using automated systems + a picture of your photo ID in order to confirm your identity when opening up a bank account, etc. Seems like we should focus on making sure poor/minorities have easy/free access to IDs, rather than ke…
The proponents of voter ID always want to put the requirement in place first but not the resources to make it happen. Until that changes, I am deaf to their 'concern'.
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#163A library is loaning you property, usually collateral-free. A corporation is just a placeholder essentially for the activities it will perform, each of which will likely have far more stringent requirements than a library card.
A library is not loaning you property, it is a public good which you already paid for and have a right to use, the administrative overhead is for the convenience of all library users. A corporation's activities are unknowable but not being a real person it is not entitled to an assumption of good faith and there is no particular right to create new legal entities. We should definitely know who the beneficial owners o…
Other people also have a right to use. How do you prevent the tragedy of the commons without knowing who has what?
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#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
A library is not loaning you property, it is a public good which you already paid for and have a right to use, the administrative overhead is for the convenience of all library users. A corporation's activities are unknowable but not being a real person it is not entitled to an assumption of good faith and there is no particular right to create new legal entities. We should definitely know who the beneficial owners o…
> which you already paid for Unknowable without knowing who you actually are
Care to elaborate? Are you referring to taxpayers versus non-taxpayers, perhaps?
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#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
Umm the 1700's in America were the era of needing to have land ownership to vote (more than half of white men couldn't vote), poll taxes, exclusion of blacks, native Americans, and women, religious tests, and so on. The 15th Amendment that changed some of that wasn't even passed until 1870. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_rights_in_the_United_St...
Yeah, "old school" was very much for extensive voter qualifications like assets and literacy tests. In fact, that's the whole purpose of the now-awkward electoral college: state legislatures choosing knowledgeable electors to vote for president/VP. --- This an unpopular opinion, but I honestly think there's something to that. My state political party operates on a caucus system, where I don't directly vote for local,…
Poll tax in context of this topic refers to one of the barriers in the Jim Crow south used to prevent black people from voting.
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#166A library is loaning you property, usually collateral-free. A corporation is just a placeholder essentially for the activities it will perform, each of which will likely have far more stringent requirements than a library card.
Also why having a Library Card for certain IRS forms like an I-9 is a valid form of identity. Which at first I thought was crazy, but given this article, I suppose it's valid. I just hope all states make getting a Library Card complicated enough.
I don't see where a library card is valid for any of the three columns of the I-9:
https://www.uscis.gov/i-9-central/acceptable-documents
If I missed something, can you point me to it?
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#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
In fact, California voter registration requires both identification and proof of residency. Please do provide the proof you're referring to.
How do you think homeless vote then? You are actually allowed to just list a park or street corner as your "home address" when registering to vote. No effort will be made to validate this; it is on the honor system. > It is recommended homeless registrants list a shelter address as their voting address where they could receive mail. Alternatively, homeless registrants may denote a street corner or a park as their res…
If you read the PDF attached to the link you provided, it repeatedly discusses registration identification requirements.
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#168Interesting historical tidbit: Many libraries had very lax requirements for library cards pre-9/11. The PATRIOT Act forced them to collect more information. https://sfpl.org/index.php?pg=2000060501&fullsite=true
Librarians have been defenders of privacy for a very long time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoia_Horn
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#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also why having a Library Card for certain IRS forms like an I-9 is a valid form of identity. Which at first I thought was crazy, but given this article, I suppose it's valid. I just hope all states make getting a Library Card complicated enough.
I don't see where a library card is valid for any of the three columns of the I-9: https://www.uscis.gov/i-9-central/acceptable-documents If I missed something, can you point me to it?
Ah I think I misread the form, I didn't use that as a proof but maybe I got confused with the School ID as a proof.
Re: The Library Card Project: The Ease of Forming Anonymous Companies in the U.S.
#170A library is loaning you property, usually collateral-free. A corporation is just a placeholder essentially for the activities it will perform, each of which will likely have far more stringent requirements than a library card.
A corporation creates a fictitious person. Allowing the beneficial interests to be hidden is disgusting and not compatible with a free market. Long ago, a corporate charter required an act of the state legislature to authorize it. Obviously that’s a heavy handed approach, but the idea that any agent of any person or other entity can anonymously create a company is ridiculous.
A corporation is not a fictitious person. You can't get a corporation a passport, or a welfare cheque, or enroll it in school. You can own and freely erase a corporation, you can't own or erase a person.
A corporation is a legal entity which can engage in some of the same contracts as people can, because its entire purpose is to serve as a legal framework for organizing economic activity. In primitive societies, economic activities must be organized around flesh and blood people, like nobility. Corporations are much more flexible and efficient in achieving these aims. This legal structure, like many others, has massively improved human welfare since its invention by allowing people to pool and deploy resources and power in flexible ways. It beats depending on a rich guy to finance and organize everything himself.
If having this legal status makes a corporation a person, a country would also have to be a fictitious person. So would the UN, and the EU, and the AU. So would every government agency and every province and state in every country. A whole world of fictitious people! Except they're not, any more than my dog is a child because she has a birth certificate and an immunization record, just like a child.
Please, let's let this 'corporations are people' myth die.